Posted on 02/04/2008 5:14:17 AM PST by SJackson
I guess we profoundly disagree that cutting off oil money to the mideast will change the jihadi mindset. Beyond that they will sell every drop they have whether we buy another barrel or not. We may be lucky as it is if we aren't beat out by China as competitive buyers.
Where I live, we don’t have many mexicans, but I understand that some of the farmers are beginning to hire them. I know they work planting and picking crops for a fruit and veg. farmer in the area. There are three or four who work in a small factory nearby as well. I know one mexican family from our church and they’re outstanding people, so I’m not willing to lump everyone in one big pot.
Hardly.
The very market itself will change worldwide with the introduction of an alternative. It’s the nature of markets.
Where I live we have very few Mexicans, but we did have one in our church and they were absolutely wonderful people. One of the girls died in an accident and we’re still mourning our loss. We can’t paint with such wide brushes.
You ought to spend a little time catching up on Cali politics.
Read up on Congressman George E. Brown, D - Colton. He got booted from the Monterey Park, CA congressional district after saying bad and nasty things about our POWs in Viet Nam.
But he was a devoted lefty, even Salon Magazine called him 'practically a communist' so the Cali Democrat Party looked about for a place where being 'practically a communist' and having negative feelings towards our POWs would not be a liability.
So they parachuted him into Colton, with it's majority Hispanic voters and he was re-elected again and again and again ..... and again.
I was doing door hangers for a GOP candidate to replace his treasonous A$$ when that comment about " God not making him a rich man..." and similar ones were made.
Ahhh the power of the free cheese ....
There is only one problem with that. There is no alternative in sight that can be even remotely competitive with petroleum.
Nothing you have written in response backs up what you previously wrote. As I said, just because they'll generally take money from anyone that wants to give it to them doesn't make them pro abortion, just pro free ride.
Nothing you have written in response backs up what you previously wrote. As I said, just because they'll generally take money from anyone that wants to give it to them doesn't make them pro abortion, just pro free ride.
Looks like it boils down to semantics.
So I will be a gentleman and concede: They are devoted to a free ride to the extent they have no problem voting for an abortionist, as long as they are assured of free cheese?
And I've been in Mexico too, beautiful country and mountains, but as I've stated here numerous times; if I had been born there, I too would run, jump, swim, whatever to get out.
Granted, many illegals are hard workers and wonderful people, but they will also abuse our health care and tax system - illegally.
Inner city illegals - and many non illegals, and other races for that matter - often have a tradition of consecutive generations of welfare abuse based on there always being small children or current pregnacies, so I thought the suggestion that they were pro abortion to be ignorant.
Mexicans like big families and are generally very religous. I don't really think they'd object to being painted with that brush.
I’m thinking again, believe me.
The Democrats still hold slaves, they're just alot better at keeping them in line...and finding ways for them to vote.
OK. Don’t sweat it. Thinking is causing every conservative to reach for the Advil these days. I think we should all go on vacation.
The 12 families that run things down there would wise up real fast.
I know there are many illegals who are screwing up our whole country and I agree with you basically. I wish we could find a way of dealing with the whole problem but I don’t think our government has the gonads to do it.
Sen Santorum mentioned it.
It is the combination of the flex-fuel engine burning alcohol....preferrably METHanol, but ETHanol will do just to make the transition possible.
You can make you own moonshine!!
:>)
You have to burn one gallon of petroleum to make 1.3 gals of ethanol so when you burn 1.3 gals of ethanol in your car you are in effect also burning one gal of gasoline. I don’t know what will be used to make methanol (wood alcohol) but it will take at least as much energy to distill. Not very efficient, pollution free and doesn’t reduce dependence on petroleum much. Plus ethanol raises the price of corn, a staple food, which increases instability in the world especially in this hemisphere where political instability is already growing to critical mass proportions.
Methanol can be made from coal.
Cheaply, and in great quantity: we have enormous coal reserves.
We use gasoline even though it has roughly the same ratio of energy loss to diesel as it has to ethanol.
When comparing the price of gasoline to the price of alcohol, one must be sure to factor in the price of every soldier, every bullet, every bomber, every rotation, every state department expense, and every dead civilian in our dealings with the jihadists. Add the price of a huge trade imbalance with trillions of dollars and millions of jobs going overseas to jihad despots.
Now add all of that to the price of gasoline.
Then compare to alcohol. The extra cost of the flex-fuel engine, which our car manufacturers ALREADY will give you if you ask, is about a hundred bucks for changing out some plastics and rubber that don’t do well with alcohol.
Remember....Methanol from coal doesn’t raise the price of corn or beef even ONE penny.
Two things you have not satisfied me in the least on are; one, the jihadists will not turn away from their agenda in the least by our changing energy sources. Two, the middle eastern oil reserves will have buyers with or without us. They already do. If we end political and military presence in the ME what we end up doing is ceding all our influence to China, Iran and Russia. And N. Korea.
Modern liberalism is a totalitarian psychotic disorder. This is why it’s never satisfied. No matter how far to the left society goes, the left screams louder and louder that we’re becoming a “right-wing fascist theocracy”. In many ways, a president like Bush enables the left by refusing to challenge them overtly. He goes along with them on enough issues (spending programs, illegal aliens) that when he doesn’t capitulate they go crazy. Surely he must have been bought by international war financiers, otherwise he wouldn’t have removed Saddam from power!
If McCain is elected (God forbid), he’ll immediately be declared an illegitimate president by the left for no other reason than that he beat a woman or a black (depending on whom the ‘Rats nominate) to win his office. If McCain gives the left amnesty, he’ll still be called a fascist if he doesn’t automatically invite another 20 million illegals to migrate here (not that McCain might not do that).
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