Posted on 02/02/2008 1:29:05 PM PST by moderate_conservative
I further vow that you are a fool AND a tool.
Well stated position, though I disagree with it. He has come out in favor of federal funding of using unborn humans for experimentation. That's a deal breaker for me.
Added to his temperament and the uneasy feeling I get when he speaks, I am forced to a third party in November if he is the nominee.
Substance and McCain should not be in the same sentence together.
Do the McCainiacs actually think John McCain is ever going to veto anything sent him by his good buddies Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy or John Kerry? HE AUTHORED LEGISLATION WITH TWO OF THEM AND WAS GOING TO BE THE VP CANIDATE WITH THE OTHER!
These “Party Uber Alles” types really have got to try thinking instead of emoting for a change. A politician who is 10% on your side, 90% on the other is still your enemy no matter what party label you slap on him.
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other candidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mis- labeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected Presiden
ooh, that one hurt! /s/
I would vote for McCain under these conditions:
1. Immediate legislation to repeal McCain - Feingold submitted by McCain
2. Immediate legislation to repeal McCain - Lieberman submitted by McCain
3. Fully commit in writing to build the border fence before even thinking about debating amnesty
4. Pick an actually conservative for V.P.
5. Not run for re-election in 2012
6. Full disclosure of all medication he is currently taking to control his nasty mean temper
If he will do that, he's got my vote.
Heck, after stabbing conservatives in the back for years, it isn't to much to ask, is it?
These McCain supporters don’t need no stinking facts!
Tough on foreign affairs??? Let’s see, close GITMO and open our borders? And as far as being a moderate conservative, I am so sick of that phrase, you are either conservative or not. Sorry, but I am having a bad day with what is going on in my party. This is the first election in 50 years that depresses me. It is a sad time.
If McCain wins on Super Tuesday the liberal media will make him the front runner. This is a pivotal point in the race and for the future of the United States. McCain has to be stopped this week or maybe never.
McCain is the biggest threat to the United States, to our way of life, to our prosperity , to our liberty and even to our ability to survive.
McCain has fought for at least a decade to give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then their families back in the 3rd world. McCain will allow those 30 million illegals to bring to the U.S. 100 million of their 3rd world relatives.So McCain is lying now when he is saying he is not for Amnesty. Huckabee would do the same.
This is the plan of Marxists/liberals like McCain, to import 3rd world socialist, ignorant,illiterate voters so these new voters can vote for Democrats and for socialism. Then we would all be starving in a socialist people’s Republic of the United States.The Soviet Union collapsed because of socialism. We are headed that way if we don’t start reducing the size of government. McCain, Huckabee , Hillary and Democrats are pure evil for wanting to push a failed system like socialism on the American people just so they can gain power.
McCain would cripple U.S industry with global warming regulations and laws.
McCain would give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and their families back in the 3rd world.
McCain would raise taxes ( he voted against the Bush tax cuts).
McCain would use his McCain-FeinGold to crack down on blogs and talk radio. This guy is a Stalinist.
McCain is no conservative but McCain is a liberal/socialist as his record shows not as his lying mouth says. It would be worse if McCain won over Hillary. At least with Hillary as president the Republicans in congress can mount an opposition. And Democrats will get the blame for all the misery they will cause. Republicans will be pressured to support the liberal statist, Stalinist agenda of McCain if he became president.
Mega Dittos.
Do you know what part the Federalist Society plays in selecting GOP judges?
Which one?
If McLame is the nominee, his people better have the convention packed with their sycophants. Real Republicans will have nothing to do with any ticket led by this jackass.
This is what is happening now without amnesty:
·If immigration continues at current levels, the nation’s population will increase from 302 million today to 468 million in 2060 — a 166 million (56 percent) increase. Immigrants plus their descendents will account for 105 million (63 percent) of the increase.
·The total projected growth of 167 million is equal to the combined populations of Great Britain, France, and Spain. The 105 million from immigration by itself is equal to 13 additional New York Cities.
·Net immigration has been increasing for five decades; if immigration continues to increase, it will add more than the projected 105 million by 2060 that will be added if immigration levels stay the same.
·Since 2000, 10.3 million immigrants have arrived — the highest seven-year period of immigration in U.S. history. More than half of post-2000 arrivals (5.6 million) are estimated to be illegal aliens.
·The nation’s immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached a record of 37.9 million in 2007. Immigrants account for one in eight U.S. residents, the highest level in 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. Within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history.
The bottom line: This country is finished if amnesty passes. Amnesty is forever.
1st you posted this.
If you are looking for some insightful responses, you will be discouraged by a bunch of juvenile comments with stupid nicknames such as “McNasty”, “McLame”, “McHillary”, etc. etc. You will need to wade through these to get to anything of substance on the topic.
Then you posted this in response to a freeper who said "And I solemnly vow that I am one who will never cast a vote for McCain, under any circumstances, no matter what."
I solemnly vow that you are a tool.
Amen !Come L-rd Yah'shua !
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11/10/2005 Mitt Romney addresses the Federalist Society
http://www2.nationalreview.com/corner/romneyaddress.pdf
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What is the Federalist Society?:
“...the Federalist Society, the expanding network of conservative lawyers who over the past quarter-century have played a leading role in reshaping the nation’s judiciary and setting high-level Republican administration policy. ..
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“..One of the group’s founding fathers was Edwin Meese, who would soon become attorney general under President Ronald Reagan. Olson was part of that Justice Department, and so was Giuliani, who served as its third-highest official. The plan was to sow talented conservatives at every level of the federal judiciary and ultimately gain a foothold at the Supreme Court. “That was very much on our minds,” Olson said.
It appears to be working as planned. When he took office in 2001, Bush leaned heavily on Federalists to create a legal power structure to continue the work of seeding the judiciary. Roberts, along with fellow conservatives Alito, Scalia and Thomas, now form a formidable bloc on the Supreme Court.
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Split among GOP camps
But as the Federalists have grown, they haven’t been immune to internal fissures. Federalists have key figures in both the Romney and Thompson campaigns who believe their candidate is a more worthy vessel for their legal philosophies. And they say they haven’t had to make the sort of compromise that Giuliani’s conservative supporters have.
David McIntosh, a former Indiana GOP congressman and gubernatorial candidate, is vice chairman of the Federalist Society, and he’s a domestic policy adviser to Thompson. Douglas Kmiec, another high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department, has gone with Romney, whom he calls “authentic.”
More: http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/giuliani_burnishes_conservativ.html
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Governor Mitt Romney Announces The Advisory Committee On The Constitution And The Courts
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Constitution_Courts
Did you bother to read all the factual information on McCain posted by gitmogrunt in post #2? I doubt it, and I doubt the moderate did either.
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