Posted on 01/31/2008 10:37:41 AM PST by Delacon
Romney is a slimey gun grabber who does what he need to do - to keep or achieve power.
I have no desire to see someone like that man in office. Period.
He and Hillary are cut from the same cloth.
Sorry, attacks like that are up for discussion. You posting today that "Mitt Romney is an evil monster from hell" isn't a fact either, and in fact was never said. Except by you.
You're bashing of Reagan to push Romney, and push him as Reganesque is just bizarre.
Reagan's past positions on abortion are nothing like Mitt's.
Of course, you are just saying things similar to what Romney has said:
Reagan was never adamantly pro-choice. If you really believe what Romney said, show some facts."...civilized society must respect the sanctity of life. And you know what? I'm following in some pretty good footsteps.
"It's exactly what Ronald Reagan did As governor, he was adamantly pro-choice"
Here's some:
In his heart, Reagan agreed with Cardinal McIntyre, not Dr. Davis, and he really wanted to veto the Therapeutic Abortion Act. Instead, he subordinated his personal feelings to the commitment he had made to Republican legislators to sign the bill. He wasn't happy about it. "Those were awful weeks," Reagan told me a year later. He added that he would never have signed the bill if he had been more experienced as governor, the only time as governor or President that Reagan acknowledged a mistake on major legislation.
He had no idea of the horrors which the bill, though far from pro-choice, would unleash on the unborn. (The "horrors" bit is mine, the reportage is Cannon's.)
Cannon does have Reagan adamant about one thing, though Cannon uses a form of the synonym "unwavering":
Reagan never wavered. Romney promised he would always be pro-choice and would never waver on that."You can't allow an abortion on grounds the child won't be born perfect," Reagan said. "Where do you stop? What is the degree of deformity [required] that a person shouldn't be born? Crippled persons have contributed greatly to our society." He never wavered in this view.
Well I am glad he did, but it makes it hard to trust someone that says they will NEVER waver and then change their mind.
Now Romney on pro-choice:That was Ronald Reagan when the Therapeutic Abortion Act became law. That was the Ronald Reagan whom Mitt Romney cavalierly calls "adamantly pro-choice." He was not the prescient and decisive crusader for life for which our romantic imaginings might long, but he was with certainty not pro-choice.
This is all from a book by an author that covered what Reagan did for 36 years.I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't feel I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice. (Edit: Romney later said that in the past he was pro-choice but isn't now.)
Yet he had just moments earlier declared that "[a]s governor, he [Reagan] was adamantly pro-choice."
We've established that Governor Reagan was anything but pro-choice.
Yes Reagan made a mistake with this. I can't be forgotten though if you keep demonizing him for it.
If you would like more information and a link, just ask.
If you dispute any of the facts presented about Romney, just ask. I will find the proof. From his own words.
BTW, I do not hate Romney. Being as you repeatedly accuse me of that I want to make it clear.
Thanks for making it "up for discussion" by your trying to squelch the facts.
I’m not bashing Reagan. I loved him very much and supported him all the way to the White House and beyond. Why is it unfair to tell the truth - that Reagan signed a law in California while he was gov that made abortion legal. That is the truth. Why is that bashing Reagan?
All I’m saying is that those who bash Romney for the same thing are being hypocritical at best. Romney said he was wrong but FReepers are unwilling to forgive him even though as gov he received an award from Massachusetts Citizens for Life.
Me thinketh thou protestest a little too much, Dr. Z.
May God have mercy on their souls.....God will deal with them.
Exactly.
By saying those horrible anti Christian things about Mitt Romney...
That poster said NOTHING anti Christian about Romney.
You don't want God to have mercy on people's souls? And God will deal with people with or out your permission.
The horrible things that were being said were being said by Romney in the video.
Reagan was never pro-choice
Romney was
Adamantly and with out wavering.
Romney is forgiven, no problem
But distorting the facts like you do needs to be spoken to.
LOL facts about Romney aren’t bashing, my little Miss Perfect.
Try to use facts instead of attacks.
And you might try reading my post. You may find out something.
Oh, and wow you posted to me with out crudely calling names and pronouncing lies about me!
Did Lager have a talk with you?
Good comment. What nobody can deny is that something is that John McCain is an ultra liberal (that is pro life has been shown to be untrue on other threads) and his there is something wrong with his mind. Did you see him giggle and talk to himself during the debate? I wonder whose voices he was hearing?
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