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Statement of Ron Paul on H.R. 5104[Protect America Act of 2007][FISA]
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| 30 Jan 2008
| Ron Paul
Posted on 01/30/2008 2:50:09 PM PST by BGHater
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:50:15 PM PST
by
BGHater
To: BGHater
The mis-named Protect America Act allows the US government to monitor telephone calls and other electronic communications of American citizens without a warrant.....The Protect America Act sidelines the FISA Court system and places authority over foreign surveillance in the director of national intelligence...the monitoring of American citizens would still require a court-issued warrant, the bill only requires that subjects be "reasonably believed to be outside the United States ." You know, he should have fired his ghost writer long ago, or at least have someone proof read his ghost writer before handing it to Paul to read..
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:56:23 PM PST
by
mnehring
(Glenfiddich/Macallan 08)
To: BGHater
Becoming more irrelevant daily. He’s still running political ads on the radio here in NH. And on stations that couldn’t possibly be heard in any other state. Unbelievable.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:57:03 PM PST
by
Past Your Eyes
(Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
To: mnehrling
Just more grist for the wheel. R-U-N Paul should right now drop out of the GOP race and go away from political life.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:59:58 PM PST
by
SoldierDad
(Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
To: Past Your Eyes
I think the debate tonight will have some fireworks.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:00:12 PM PST
by
BGHater
("Ron Paul won every debate!" Rudy Giuliani)
To: BGHater
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:01:12 PM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: BGHater
He doesn’t think phoning Osama Bin Laden is probable cause?
To: ElkGroveDan
Now you’ve offended a wonderful part of God’s creation— loons.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:13:51 PM PST
by
Clara Lou
(~sigh~ '08)
To: Past Your Eyes
"Hes still running political ads on the radio here in NH. And on stations that couldnt possibly be heard in any other state. Unbelievable."
Shhhhh......Let the retard waste the money of his donors. Let the ignorant keep sending him money that he can flush. In Houston, he is running ads for the first time in many, many years. He is worried that this largest voting bloc, Republicans, have turned on him there. They have Paul. Chris Peden looks like a great replacement for you. He supports America and our troops.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:14:26 PM PST
by
jrooney
(Ron Paul called Reagan a Dramatic Failure and thinks he is smarter than Abe Lincoln.)
To: BGHater
Why oppose this Ron? Get out there and repeal FISA.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:16:38 PM PST
by
depressed in 06
(Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
To: mnehrling
“You know, he should have fired his ghost writer long ago, or at least have someone proof read his ghost writer before handing it to Paul to read..”
Why would he? He didn’t read a racist and conspiracy theory wacko newsletter with his signature over three decades. He is probably too busy with more important things.
To: mnehrling
I don’t see where your Paul quotes show any lack of proof reading. Would you please elaborate?
To: secretagent
He discusses citizens rights being violated in one sentence, then in the next he admits this is ‘foreign’ surveillance, and later he admits that to spy on citizens, a warrant must still be acquired, thus negating his first comment.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:20:40 PM PST
by
mnehring
(Glenfiddich/Macallan 08)
To: mnehrling
Thanks. It could use some clarification:
While proponents of this legislation have argued that the monitoring of American citizens would still require a court-issued warrant, the bill only requires that subjects be "reasonably believed to be outside the United States ." Further, it does not provide for the Fourth Amendment protection of American citizens if they happen to be on the other end of the electronic communication where the subject of surveillance is a non-citizen overseas.
I think Paul is saying that an American's communication can sometimes be monitored without a warrant, hence violating the 4th Amendment, if the other party is an overseas non-citizen.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:47:28 PM PST
by
CJ Wolf
(To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
To: secretagent
Once again, he plays the old role of the perfect (in his mind) being the enemy of the good.. he is pulling the, well, maybe, just maybe, even though the bill says they have to get a warrant, just maybe it could be used for spying on Americans..
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:48:18 PM PST
by
mnehring
(Glenfiddich/Macallan 08)
To: Past Your Eyes
That’s called “money laundering”!
From Soros to Paul to liberal station owners.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:50:06 PM PST
by
airborne
(The Founding Fathers would be deeply saddened.)
To: mnehrling
Ron Paul notes that proponents say a warrant is still required but also notes that the wording in the bill belies its proponents.
To: jrooney
Delegates of candidates who have dropped out are free to vote as they wish. I think RP is trying to get some of those delegates.
To: CJ Wolf
Paper pleeze, ver are your papers?
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:57:22 PM PST
by
padre35
(Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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