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Copy a CD, owe $1.5 million under "gluttonous" PRO-IP Act
Ars Technica ^ | 1-29-08 | Nate Anderson

Posted on 01/30/2008 10:54:17 AM PST by Snickering Hound

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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR04279:@@@P

Sponsor: John Conyers Co-sponsors: Rep Berman, Howard L. [D][CA-28] - 12/5/2007 Rep Chabot, Steve [R][OH-1] - 12/5/2007 Rep Cohen, Steve [D][TN-9] - 12/5/2007 Rep Feeney, Tom [R][FL-24] - 12/5/2007 Rep Goodlatte, Bob [R][VA-6] - 12/5/2007 Rep Issa, Darrell E. [R][CA-49] - 12/5/2007 Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [D][TX-18] - 12/5/2007 Rep Keller, Ric [R][FL-8] - 12/5/2007 Rep Schiff, Adam B. [D][CA-29] - 12/5/2007 Rep Smith, Lamar [R][TX-21] - 12/5/2007 Rep Wexler, Robert [D][FL-19] - 12/6/2007

1 posted on 01/30/2008 10:54:18 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Seems like a pretty good example of cruel and unusual punishment to me.


2 posted on 01/30/2008 10:57:04 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Snickering Hound; antiRepublicrat

Copy ping!


3 posted on 01/30/2008 10:57:10 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I’ve got close to 700 Cds, store bought, ripped to my hard drive. When a friend needs a song he likes, I just email it to him. If he wants the whole disc I do it one song/email at a time. I never use open p2p sharing sites or software.
Most mp3s are 5mbs and only take a few seconds on broadband DSL extreme.


4 posted on 01/30/2008 11:04:19 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Romney/Watts 2008)
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To: Snickering Hound

Argh, Bob Goodlatte, my old hometown rep, is signed on to that monstrosity. Rick “Mr. Peepers” Boucher (D, VA-9) needs to come across the aisle from the Dem side and slap some sense into him.

If nothing else, it’s proof that the RIAA and their minions work both sides of the aisle equally. Conyers and Sheila “Mars” Jackson-Lee on one side, Goodlatte and Darrell Issa on the other.

}:-)4


5 posted on 01/30/2008 11:08:48 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: ShadowAce
Copy ping!

Copy ping!

6 posted on 01/30/2008 11:09:30 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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I’ve got close to 700 Cds, store bought, ripped to my hard drive.


So I guess you would owe about one billion dollars in penalties to the music biz. better work some overtime lol
7 posted on 01/30/2008 11:12:26 AM PST by catbertz (<br><br> They)
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civil damages that bear no resemblance to the damages suffered

I wish that line were focused on. That's the issue behind the issue. If I am copying something I already own, as opposed to freely distributing it on the public Internet, how can the "damages" be set so high?

8 posted on 01/30/2008 11:14:14 AM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: Brilliant

Was there 1.5 million $ of damages?

Is this why Edwards dropped out of the race?

Does any of this apply to China?


9 posted on 01/30/2008 11:15:48 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Snickering Hound

bump for later reading


10 posted on 01/30/2008 11:28:43 AM PST by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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This whole thing might explain part of why cassette tapes aren’t being produced any more. Are they? What are people supposed to listen to in their cassette players? A cassette player is certainly smaller than a portable CD player. You can’t pop a CD player into your pocket.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 11:36:25 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Progressives are totalitarians on the march.)
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Disproportionate laws breed contempt for all laws. But no one ever said Congressmen were smart or logical. A pox on all their houses.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 11:36:36 AM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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Copy ping!

Copy ping!

Copy ping!

Crap... We're up to $4.5 million so far...

13 posted on 01/30/2008 11:39:44 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Ron in Acreage
I’ve got close to 700 Cds, store bought, ripped to my hard drive.

I just acquired a used Bose Lifestyle system that plays and stores copies of CDs automatically. I wonder if Bose will be an accessory to copyright infringement.

14 posted on 01/30/2008 11:44:00 AM PST by js1138
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To: Snickering Hound

Aren’t there bigger fish to fry like the makers of blank cd’s? Of course they’re probably owned by corporations like sony. They’re going to sue folks for using the products they sell. What a country!


15 posted on 01/30/2008 11:46:42 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Snickering Hound

Did they have Dr. Evil come up with a one million dollar figure, and then run in by the lawyers who said “if you want one million after a 33% lawyer fee, you’ll need $1.5 million”?


16 posted on 01/30/2008 11:53:55 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Most of what I have acquired from friends music collections is/was not something I was willing to buy in the first place, and if I’m forced to delete it, there is no real loss to me.

RIAA...good luck with your enforcement. I’ve already stopped buying your products, maybe I’ll stop using them too.


17 posted on 01/30/2008 12:17:41 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: js1138

Was it full of the previous owners music? I never new the Lifestyle system did that. Pretty cool. I use Bose 301s in the front and the 101s in the rear. Infinity center and JBL sub. Rocks nicely.


18 posted on 01/30/2008 12:21:13 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Romney/Watts 2008)
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To: Ron in Acreage
When a friend needs a song he likes, I just email it to him.

Well, then there are at lest two ISPs who have a record of your transaction right there...be careful.

19 posted on 01/30/2008 12:23:34 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Not surprised to see Lamar Smith’s name on this.


20 posted on 01/30/2008 12:25:18 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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