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The Death of the GOP and the Birth of a New Political Party
RMS941 ^ | 1/29/08 | AJ Madison

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:21 PM PST by pissant

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To: luvadavi

I like FALCON, but I love Phoenix. It is very relevant.


361 posted on 01/30/2008 3:04:25 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: pissant
Turns out the math is against it. The only way a third party can advance to pre-eminence in this country is by taking over one of the two major parties.

The Dems, in modern times, have had something like 5 major factions. The Republicans, in contrast, have had only 2 major factions, and one very small faction important only because of its wealth ~ not its numbers.

The Dems LOST A FACTION to the Republicans ~ the white Southern Conservative Democrats ~ but that faction had a counterpart in the existing Evangelical Republican base, so it was absorbed and disappeared as a separate faction.

The Dems also LOST PART OF A FACTION, the Catholics, who were absorbed into the Republican party within the framework of the existing factions ~ the rank and file gravitating to the same part of the base occupied by their near ideological twins, the Conservative Evangelicals.

At the moment the Republican party resembles the typical Christian Democrat type party found in Europe ~ reliably Conservative on most issues. It also contains the RINOs (Democrats or minor party candidates elected as Republicans), and the Country Clubbers (who are not all wealthy) who focus on party organization and funraising.

Although there are quite a few Countryclubbers out there, there really aren't enough of them to kick out ~ and the Conservative base would have to work harder at raising funds ~

The Republican party, by itself, does not look like anything a smaller faction could take over and refocus to its own interests.

The Dems, on the other hand, still have several factions. They may be open for subversion.

Any Conservatives out there who want to pursue [absolute] Conservatism within the Democratic party are free to do so of course ~ but I doubt they'll let you get away with it.

362 posted on 01/30/2008 3:10:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Alvy Moore for president! :-)


363 posted on 01/30/2008 3:12:57 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: pissant

This can be accomplished. it will take men with big balls and big guns.

Guaranteed, the controllers will fight with every underhanded action possible to remain in power.

So who will the party leader be?


364 posted on 01/30/2008 3:18:53 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: underbyte

My wife suggests we sell everything and move to the Caribbean or New Zealand.

With Sarkozy, France looks better than Obamillary


365 posted on 01/30/2008 3:20:02 PM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: o_zarkman44

The author.


366 posted on 01/30/2008 3:20:17 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: littlehouse36

“No need for a new party. The RNC will be conservative again in 2010, midterm.”

So Washington DC is going to be born again and change their ways?
Theres better chance winning the Powerball jackpot.
99.9999% it ain’t going to happen.


367 posted on 01/30/2008 3:23:39 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: muawiyah

The math is definitely against us. But that is where determination and smarts will come into play.


368 posted on 01/30/2008 3:23:43 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: advance_copy

The MSM manipulators, in cahoots with their government moutnpieces would do everything possible to discredit a 3rd party.
Propaganda is difficult to overcome. It takes physical control of the sources. By force.

So the big question.

Is a Free America worth fighting for to regain control?


369 posted on 01/30/2008 3:28:26 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; All

Face it , Klinton or Obama will be president and the USA will be on a long slide DOWN DOWN DOWN!


370 posted on 01/30/2008 3:31:45 PM PST by sonic109
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To: pissant
As long as this country has what are called single-member districts we will have only two major political parties with fairly universal coverage of the country.

United Kingdom once had three major parties, but two of them were geographically based and didn't overlap much.

The US Congress once had to deal with the Dixiecrats who caucused with the Dems but voted with the Republicans ~ a similar situation.

The math is against a third party.

371 posted on 01/30/2008 3:47:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The math is very much against 3rd parties. But Falcon will win the war of ideas and attract the conservatives over time. GOPers will not have to give up their party affiliation to belong. The fight needs to be on all fronts all the time.


372 posted on 01/30/2008 3:49:14 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: Grunthor

No, I’d rather avoid the kook fringes to start with and attract the good folks from the Patriot and Constitution and the Libertarian and Republican parties. The idea is to build a better mousetrap than any of them.


373 posted on 01/30/2008 3:52:13 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: Imperial Warrior

Hey hey. I think the Falcon party will be just the ticket. I’ll ping everyone when I see they have their website up and running.


374 posted on 01/30/2008 3:55:07 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: upsdriver

I will create a modified version of the list for those that have interest in FALCON.


375 posted on 01/30/2008 3:57:22 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: Junior_G

That is glaringly obvious at this point.


376 posted on 01/30/2008 3:58:03 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: al baby

Al baby,

You mistake the unambiguous failure of big government programs to deliver on all it’s promises (which is about a decade away, give or take) with the collapse of America.

I think the period after the failure of big government will be one of opportunity and freedom, after (of course) the inevitable social upheaval of throngs of citizens realizing that check isn’t coming anymore.

Once Americans again look at government with the jaded eye it deserves, and as our founders intended, it will be an exciting time to be an American.


377 posted on 01/30/2008 3:58:20 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: CindyDawg

There apparently aren’t enough conservatives left to make a viable voting block. There are enough socialists in each party to elect one from either party without the support of conservatives. So who cares about us. Politicians pander to us as much as they would the albino disabled homosexual dwarf voters. Actually, they probably have much more of a voice.


378 posted on 01/30/2008 4:09:28 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

McCain is weak on life, and I do not want a global warming alarmist in power.


379 posted on 01/30/2008 4:10:03 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: Keyes2000mt
My friends

You lost me. Right. There.

380 posted on 01/30/2008 4:11:49 PM PST by browardchad
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