Posted on 01/28/2008 12:05:56 PM PST by Dr. Carl S. Parnell
Since when? The IRS seems to think it is their business. And Grassly is holding Senate investigations into TV evangelists.
I usually end up being the least polite person in the conversation, but it looks like you've cornered that market preemptively
I assume from your question that you agree with the OP that Christians are the victims of persecution in this country. I think that is a silly notion, advanced by a small subset of people that want to be both powerful and pitied. I have no use for that.
No, the Constitution is a one-way street. It tells us what the government can and can't do. The Constitution is not a document that can be used to regulate what a Church says or does.
So what are you trying to say? Do you want more or less government involvement with religion?
I believe you misunderstood my point. I am pointing out that when you allow for a greater role in government by religion, you are inevitably allowing for a greater role in religion by the government. That’s the way things have always worked, and I see no reason to think that’s going to change any time soon.
I want the government to treat religion like any other speech. That means government should not discrimination against religious speech like it currently does. Why do gay lobbyists get to come into schools and advance an agenda that is hostile towards the religion of most people, but if someone wants to present an argument based on religious reasons, they are prohibited. The viewpoints of people with a religious viewpoint are being suppressed by a court system that has taken a hostile view of religion.
Be sure to say it with a smile, not in a snotty tone of voice. It really works.
I agree, and I’d add that I don’t like to see the holy name of Lord Jesus amidst the grime of the road on a bumper sticker, even by the well-meaning. I also don’t like some “Christian rock” that substitutes the sacred name of Christ for that of a romantic paramour in a poorly adapted “love song”.
Bosh Flimshaw’s posts all read like troll postings to me, his posting history is 100% consistent.
Thanks for you input. Your opinion is very valuable to me, and I appreciate that you took the time to add to the discussion.
I think the is more of a libertarian mindset than a troll. Although I think he feigns concern for religious freedom.
ping for later
“I think the is more of a libertarian mindset than a troll. Although I think he feigns concern for religious freedom.”
I read his entire posting history, and he looked like a retread to me (at best), or simply a troll.
How ‘bout “Swine of Mohammad?”
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It is isn’t a hidden agenda. It is an overt agenda.
Isn’t it normally considered bad form to discuss someone without pinging them?
I don’t have to feign any concern for religious freedom. My religious freedom is one of the most important things to me, and one of the primary things I love about this country.
It scares the hell out of me when people don’t consider the ramifications of injecting their own particular religion into government, and I find nothing “conservative” about eroding the protections for religion our founding fathers put into the Constitution.
If you don’t mind the government poking its nose into your church, then you should have no problem arguing for greater religious involvement with government.
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With the new technology available, the internet, and netflicks....the old Hollyweird movie machine just might grind to a halt.
For example, the Mormons have a little Mormon movie industry. Were you aware of that? Individual Mormon movie makers are making movies that appeal to this niche Utah and Mormon market. And,,,Am I correct that the hit movie “Napoleon Dynamite” was made by BYU students? Surely this is not going unnoticed.
Do you have a problem with the IRS determining what churches can do or say to maintain their tax-exempt status? Do you have problems with the Greesly dragging pastors in the front of the Senate Committees to rectally examine everything the churches do? I am much more concern with the power of the government being used against churches. What churches do to influence the government is of little concern to me from a freedom stand point. They have as much right as anyone to try to influence public policy.
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Education is NEVER religiously neutral, and the mention of, or prohibition, of the name of Jesus is merely one example among thousands.
It is just as much of a religious statement to forbid the name of Jesus as it is to include it. However,,the government school is in a Catch 22 because there is no middle ground. The government must either allow the name of Jesus or forbid it. Either action upholds and ESTABLISHES the religious worldview of some, and actively trashes that of others.
Solution: Get government OUT of the education business!
Government schools are a freedom of conscience and First Amendment abomination!
Al Gore! That car almost hit me!”
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My husband and I are sitting here laughing and laughing.!!!
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