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1 posted on 01/27/2008 5:03:23 PM PST by traumer
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Shaker used to be


123 posted on 01/28/2008 2:15:47 AM PST by dennisw
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The thing the article didn't mention was the loss of an economic engine in the rust belt (to include NE Ohio). They blame the mortgage lenders, when the other glaring point here is the impact of government regulation on their industry combined with union preference for industrial self-destruction over compromise with management.

Myself, I'd blame what's happening on the unions and years of government over-regulation forcing industry south before I'd blame mortgage lenders.

127 posted on 01/28/2008 3:59:00 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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I drove through Shaker Hts a few days ago. What is in this article might exist here & there (like where I live) but overall I saw a lot of very high end homes (as well as modest) in great condition & the normal amount of for sale signs.

Seems like a little sensationalism here implying the entire community is shot.

There is a lot of pride in Shaker Hts which has had it share of difficulty in going from an elitist & wealthy city to semi slum at borders near east Cleveland & then the past couple decades a true attempt to put itself in a positive light & clean up the “problems”


128 posted on 01/28/2008 4:28:57 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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People refinance their homes without even reading the terms of the mortgage?

How did they buy homes in the first place?

Is this story even true?


136 posted on 01/28/2008 7:14:26 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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I thought Shaker Heights was one of the most exclusive areas to live in the Cleveland area. At least it was back in the late 60’s and early 70’s.


137 posted on 01/28/2008 7:18:56 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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“Chagrin Street” - apparently named very aptly.


138 posted on 01/28/2008 7:20:38 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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She refinanced in 2003, but did not realize the document she signed included provisions to radically increase the interest rate.

Here's a free clue:

Don't ever, ever sign a legal document you have not read or do not understand!

148 posted on 01/28/2008 8:39:06 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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wow....certainly NOT the Shaker Heights I knew.


155 posted on 01/28/2008 12:14:28 PM PST by Kimberly GG (God Bless our true conservative patriots..... Duncan Hunter & Family!!)
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“All you needed was a pulse to buy a house. Some loans were written with no money down, no proof of buyer’s incomes. They did not even check what people were saying. Most of those folks were jobless,” he said in an interview.

And no Social Security number either. Wonder how many who “left in the night” have already purchased a new identity/number and how many squatters will be purchasing the same.


156 posted on 01/28/2008 12:19:32 PM PST by Kimberly GG (God Bless our true conservative patriots..... Duncan Hunter & Family!!)
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So where is Kucinich in all this. He created the problems when he was Mayor.
And, he wants to be president?


162 posted on 01/29/2008 9:34:58 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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Shaker Heights has been decaying slowly for the last 3 decades. It was once a very wealthy suburb of Cleveland, with large, stone-faced houses and lots, plenty of small lakes, and access to the Cleveland Rapid Transit system.

Unfortunately, it's lost its lustre as those with the means have moved on to lower-taxed, less-liberal surroundings in the outlying suburbs such as Pepper Pike & Beachwood.

170 posted on 01/30/2008 2:46:00 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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"All you needed was a pulse to buy a house. Some loans were written with no money down, no proof of buyer's incomes. They did not even check what people were saying. Most of those folks were jobless," he said in an interview.

Were lenders really that stupid, or is someone telling a stretcher here in order to gain sympathy.

171 posted on 01/30/2008 2:47:55 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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