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Posted on 01/22/2008 12:50:17 PM PST by BGHater
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I remember a movie, “The Enemy Beneath” if memory serves me right, starring Robert Mitcham, about destroyers and Nazi U-boats in the South Atlantic. I think it must be the only movie ever made about WW2 Naval warfare in that part of the world.
Jacksonville could take any of the carriers with almost no modification needed. Pensacola also used to have a carrier, but more work would probably be needed there. You’d probably have to start from scratch at Charleston. As a practical matter, aircraft based out of Florida and Cuba could probably provide routine air cover for the Carribean, Texas for the western Gulf.
The Pursuit of the Graf Spee, 1956. It is my recollection that one of the British cruisers involved in the battle played itself in the movie.
perhaps this signals a time when a reserve carrier is needed to patrol the area’s of the 4th fleet....perhaps the JFK?
“Another fleet? Well, by God, I love the Navy, but where are the ships coming to come from?”
Yup. The Navy is actually shrinking. Are you telling me we’re gonna canabalize the Atlantic and Pacific fleets with a resurgent Russia and a growing China to be dealt with? Why, so we can take a piss on Hugo Chavez? Come on....
That would be sublime.
“The Enemy Below” benefits from an unconventional performance and writing that makes it stand out from the pack of World War II films produced in the same era.
Robert Mitchum plays the commander of an American destroyer and Curt Jergens as the commander of a German U-boat. They’re stalking each other at sea playing a high stakes game of chess with each man carefully considering each move and countermove. Mitchum’s commander may be a bit layed back compared to some but it’s what keeps his men devoted him to him. Jergens plays his captain as someone who is doing his duty but doesn’t believe in the Nazi cause.
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read more here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050356/
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HEY HUGO...GET A LOAD OF THIS!
Well, DUH! China, silly!
We “dock” carriers all the time in Mayport, FL. It has been home port for many a fine bird farm including USS Saratoga CVA-60.
No work needed at all Mayport FL has been, is and always will be homeport for US Carriers.
Maybe this link will work, I don’t know...
If it does you will see a Google Earth image
of the Kennedy (CVA/CV-67) docked in Jacksonville.
http://maps.pomocnik.com/satellite-maps/?map=1881
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also, this shot shows 3 unidentified carriers
docked nearly side-by-side up in Norfolk.
http://maps.pomocnik.com/satellite-maps/?map=99
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In the past, they have always been conventionally powered. Some mods might be necessary to accommodate that. Is the navy making any changes Japan in connection with the change of ships there? At one point it was argued that the nuclear ships would have higher pier side electrical requirements, for example and some changes in maintenance facilities. Don't know if that was true or FUD, but it should give a pretty good picture of what, if anything, would need to be done at Jacksonville.
The navy, up through the commander-in-chief, has foolishly put all of the carrier eggs in one basket in the Atlantic. At least the Pacific fleet are spread out to 3 or 4 different home ports.
I know you’re right but its fun to think of them hammering a coastline somewhere. I’ve kept a scrapbook of stuff on the Iowas. They reach back (concept/drawings) to the 1930s...
Besides, the Gulf is a large place to patrol with regards to the WOT and the WOD and illegal immigration.
I'd just figure Ms. Kitty would have some years left in her.
Those Navy pilots (bless their hearts) could easily get their monthly flight hr requirements in and still keep a serious eye on things.
With our sats, coastal surface radars and their eyes in the sky (especially the P3 crews), would help keep tabs on the bad guys.
Back in the late '70's, got to go out on the Enterprise out of Pensi as a closely chaperoned guest with other civies for an overnight float and watch nighttime flight training ops. Those pilots and deck dudes have kahunas made of elements not found in most men.
I’d like to see those ‘under-development’ super sneaky Navy ships they show on the military channel get honed in harassing the drug runners, etc. running around in the Gulf, Cuba, etc.
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