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Nothing "fair" about the "fair tax"
Leland Tribune ^ | 1/21/2008 | Elaine Mejia

Posted on 01/22/2008 3:43:13 AM PST by xcamel

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To: Paladin2
I love to argue FairTax against left wing moonbats like the author. What really kills me is that you guys keep posting the opinions of liberal income tax lovers.

I hope that hand you're licking has been washed. LOL.

201 posted on 01/22/2008 10:17:00 AM PST by groanup (IRS. It's what we live for.)
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To: DivaDelMar
The rate is stipulated in the Bill.
That's only for the first year. After the first year the rate "shall be determined" by unelected bureaucrats at Social Security...It too is "stipulated in the bill".
The rate has been confirmed by Art Laffer’s firm, here:
Here's a laugher from Laffer..well lie actually.
"To ensure that income taxes are not reinstated in the future, the FairTax plan also calls for the repeal of the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution."
Apparently Laugher decided to parrot Fairtax rhetoric rather than actual research...like reading the bill.
202 posted on 01/22/2008 10:18:35 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: groanup

you have some really wierd fetishes...


203 posted on 01/22/2008 10:23:14 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: xcamel
c*4.9% + (c-d).049*.049+...

Something like that.

It will vary by the fraction of labor in the product and components from suppliers (from suppliers(from suppliers)). It could be fairly high for services. Likely less for products from $100/bbl oil.

This is the analysis I've being trying to find from these folks. Haven't seen it. Maybe groanup can help (I'm sure he'll NEVER post to this post as I'm not talking to him).

204 posted on 01/22/2008 10:23:44 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: groanup
"refuting the arguments."

I don't see no steenkin' arguments.

205 posted on 01/22/2008 10:25:44 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: DivaDelMar
So you’d rather have less productivity and investment?
Sales not sales taxes encourage production.

Encouraging people to buy used nor imposing a huge sales tax at the other end of production won't encourage more production.

206 posted on 01/22/2008 10:26:27 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

Well, it sure will just before it hits. ;-)


207 posted on 01/22/2008 10:30:00 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Paladin2
Plus it is possible in some industries/cases to "share" the windfall of no corp profit tax.

It'd be interesting to see what the case of M$ might be given that their marginal cost of production is dang near zero.

208 posted on 01/22/2008 10:46:18 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Paladin2
I don't see no steenkin' arguments.

You wouldn't.

209 posted on 01/22/2008 10:51:32 AM PST by groanup (IRS. It's what we live for.)
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To: groanup

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210 posted on 01/22/2008 10:58:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: groanup

I would.


211 posted on 01/22/2008 10:59:18 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: lewislynn
"Apparently Laugher"

Hey, that is not is name. LOL

I'd switch his axes so that tax rate is the independent variable. The other "order" makes no sense to me, but then I'm not a dismal scientist.

212 posted on 01/22/2008 11:42:42 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Paladin2

But you are a nicer poster than the “dismal penny stock broker”


213 posted on 01/22/2008 12:17:58 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: xcamel
I am a strong believer in at least attempted subtlety.
214 posted on 01/22/2008 12:23:12 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Paladin2
This is the analysis I've being trying to find from these folks

You've been asking about diesel fuel. First of all, you'd better worry about the base price more than the tax. Secondly, the FairTax will only bring the price of diesel fuel down about 9-15%. Third, if you want to store a year's worth of fuel fine. Buy one year's worth at historically high prices, genius, and pay the cost to store it. LOL!

215 posted on 01/22/2008 12:46:02 PM PST by groanup (IRS. It's what we live for.)
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To: groanup
Finally, am estimate. Is this estimate inclusive or exclusive?

Why isn't it 23%?

216 posted on 01/22/2008 12:49:51 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: groanup
Hey a month or so ago you thought you were a wealth creator by leaching off the real producers.

What say you now? Wealth destroyer?

Someone is getting lessons on who really creates (and controls) wealth...It ain't you.

217 posted on 01/22/2008 12:56:09 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: groanup

Cool. If that reduction (15%) is the exclusive price, I get an average 20% (tax free) return for one year’s worth of fuel. How’s the gov’t feel about not getting a revenue neutral intake for the first year?


218 posted on 01/22/2008 12:56:46 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: groanup
"Buy one year's worth at historically high prices, genius"

And here I thought oil is running at <$90/bbl rather than the record $100. When is the FT going into effect? Tomorrow, Yesterday?, When oil was at $100? (genius)? LOL.

219 posted on 01/22/2008 1:01:40 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: lewislynn

What’s your problem? Buy at the top? Too bad. LOL!


220 posted on 01/22/2008 1:03:07 PM PST by groanup (IRS. It's what we live for.)
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