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What to Expect When You’re Free Trading
New York Times ^ | January 16, 2008 | STEVEN E. LANDSBURG

Posted on 01/16/2008 4:01:09 AM PST by LowCountryJoe

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To: Vigilanteman

Good post...........


501 posted on 01/22/2008 8:18:31 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar" - Bob Kerry)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I think all our vital components should be made here or by our close allies"

I think all components for our defense machine should be made here. Allegiances change, even those from the same roots as we.

How long was it before we could fight a war on the level of WWII, during WWII? And who would we be fighting this WWII level war against?

Not long, because we had the manufacturing infrastructure to make machines, weapons, ammunition, clothing and equipment we needed. Such infrastructure is vanishing. In ten years we will be well and truly screwed.

Lord knows, but wars happen, and they are most likely to happen when a potential enemy thinks we are weak enough.

502 posted on 01/22/2008 10:11:26 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Oh, so there aren't monopolies? Great.

There are no setups for domestic monopolies. Haven't you read my last two posts to you.

But none have happened yet. Thanks.

Before US law ended the techniques of domestic monopoly, people who were buying cheap from the hucksters would have said the same thing.

When one happens, its too late, my friend. We should have policies and discipline to dig the kudzu vine up before it takes root.

But all I hear from your ranks is trade! trade! cheap! cheap! joy! joy!

503 posted on 01/22/2008 10:20:07 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
North Korea is not setup like we are and have been, Huck. We have already done it, and it worked out well for us. This new type exchange is novel and untried.

Now, why would we abandon something that is tried and true for something risky and novel, that violates basic commonsense on its face?

504 posted on 01/22/2008 10:37:01 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: scarface367
You really want to believe in faeries and elves, don't you?

505 posted on 01/22/2008 10:38:30 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: scarface367
Give examples of this monopoly. What is it? What industry is it in?

Again.

The basic monopoly requires the setup of a span of underpriced items, running competition out of business. This takes a span of time.

Any industry in America that is loosing its foothold on the market for its product because of the same cheap foreign product.

Why is this so complicated for you? I'll repeat it for months until it sinks in. It is really the Trojan horse that will defeat us and force us into ceding national sovereignty for global governance.

Ignore it to your, and my, peril.

But, I know, I know, if we have a world government, the aliens will finally let us join the Galactic Union.

506 posted on 01/22/2008 10:45:30 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: scarface367
Read the papers. Listen to world events. Plot the loss of manufacturing infrastructure in this country over the last four decades.

"Facts" will not keep you from wanting to believe in fantasies, even when what you are against has been the MO of this country until lately (since about the '70s, I figure) and has worked to make us a world power.

"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

507 posted on 01/22/2008 10:54:32 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
North Korea is not setup like we are and have been, Huck.

Sometimes autarky works, sometimes it doesn't?

Now, why would we abandon something that is tried and true for something risky and novel,

Trading with other countries is risky and novel?

508 posted on 01/22/2008 11:49:31 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: William Terrell
Read the papers. Listen to world events. Plot the loss of manufacturing infrastructure in this country over the last four decades.

Show me actual facts that back up your assertion that trade is harming our economy. It is an indisputable fact that our nation's GDP is at all time levels. It is up to you to show where trade is hurting this.

509 posted on 01/22/2008 11:50:19 AM PST by scarface367 (Why are protectionists so stupid when it comes to economics?)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Your attempts to ameliorate suffering by dumbing down tyranny is sophistry.
I am refferring to the Stalinist type gulags where people are imprisoned to create a labor force. China is notorious for this.


510 posted on 01/22/2008 4:48:57 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
I am refferring to the Stalinist type gulags where people are imprisoned to create a labor force. China is notorious for this.

And surely you have inside knowledge of these things from unbiased and recent sources.

511 posted on 01/22/2008 5:08:03 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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