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The Tearing of the Conservative Fusion
Townhall.com ^ | January 6, 2008 | George Will

Posted on 01/06/2008 9:51:23 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Clintonfatigued

Me too. The horrible spectre of any of the Democrats choosing the replacements for Ginsburg and Stevens is my overriding concern. I don’t want the chooser to be in fealty to NARAL, NOW, or MoveOn.org. I will not enable such a catastrophe by voting my heart, instead of my head, when a decades-long, disastrous SCOTUS is in the balance.


61 posted on 01/06/2008 1:28:22 PM PST by GAgal
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To: advance_copy; cpforlife.org
Back when the "other faction" thought it's media could stuff Giuliani down our throats, we were told time and again how we had to set aside our quaint little beliefs about the sanctity of life and marriage as you scolded us for our "intolerance" of "alternative lifestyles". Well, Mr. Will, when the alternatives offered to us are in the form of Rudy McRomney who (no matter what he says now) is not pro-life and who still thinks the radical gay agenda is "chic", you should have expected the "fusion" to end. It was you, not us, who flushed the coalition. Aside from Mr. Huckabee, there is not one pro-life candidate running for President right now. And, as we are the majority of voters in the GOP, watch what happens to your Georgetown cocktail circuit.
4 posted on 01/06/2008 10:04:25 AM PST by advance_copy

If they don't come up with a plan to make middle class family life more affordable, they can forget about any "fusion" dynasties. No civilization survives the loss of its middle class or normal family life. Some of these pundits spend too much time inside-the-beltway indulging Rudy fantasies and other delusions. With their second and third wives, girlfriends, and mistresses.

The weaknesses in the Rudy formula were going to be exploited by somebody. That's a no-brainer. George Will should be smart enough to understand that. Maybe he hasn't tallied the math for middle class family expenses in housing, education, or gasoline very recently.

Reagan was a much better candidate than Rudy or Romney. His pro-life positions a very integral part of the fusionist "Reagan coalition" that solidified the conservative movement.

Tax cuts on capital agains alone do not deliver "fusionist" victories. The GOP needs pro-life Evangelicals and Catholics to do that. And they need a good cross section of the middle class. Giuliani's candidacy can't deliver that. A winning GOP candidate needs support outside of the Chevy Chase and Georgetown cocktail circuit.

Back to PoliSci 101 for Mr. Will.

Ronald Reagan, President of the United States (1981-1989)

1980: landslide (44 states, 489 electoral votes) Reagan's position: pro-life

1984: landslide (49 states, 525 electoral votes) Reagan's position: pro-life


62 posted on 01/06/2008 2:46:54 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: hellbender

In a way, it was appropriate the he wasn’t in the debate. None of the other candidates deserve to be on the same stage with this 24K gold conservative patriot.
***Well said. Moving into New Hampshire, the only republicans who have more delegates than Duncan Hunter are Romney and Thompson. No delegates were actually selected in Iowa.

The New Hampshire GOP withdrew its sponsorship of yesterday’s debate.

According to this article, there were no delegates selected in Iowa.

First G.O.P. Delegate Goes to Romney (Romney, Hunter Leading in WY)
New York Times ^ | January 5, 2008 | MEAD GRUVER
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us/politics/05cnd-wyoming.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1199563235-58hBRHoYXSVDHcyr25G/Fw&oref=slogin

“Wyoming chose the first 12 delegates of 2008 at 12 separate county conventions. Iowa Republicans, who have 40 delegates, conducted a straw poll but elected no convention delegates Thursday.”

So, that means that Romney has the most delegates (8), Fred has 3 and Hunter has 1, going into New Hampshire. I see now that Hunter was wise not to campaign in Iowa, and where he did choose to campaign he drew blood. You get more bang for the buck with Hunter.

The fact that he’s being excluded from New Hampshire debates is probably a historical first. This is a conservative website and Hunter is a conservative candidate. The GOP is late in waking up to the fact that the media hates conservatives.

Basically, it’s a wide open race, with the lead changing on a weekly basis. Might as well support the truest conservative, Hunter.

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The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


63 posted on 01/06/2008 4:58:12 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: sourcery
The only result of such an attitude will be the destruction of the coalition that is the GOP.....We must unite behind a candidate that is at least acceptable to all the major factions, and who also has a reasonable chance to run an effective, winning campaign in the general election.

Very well said. I am really sensing a fragmentation here that I have never seen before. It is a shame because both Obama and Hillary are beatable if we hold together.

64 posted on 01/06/2008 5:18:12 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: hellbender
Yes, being in the House is a handicap. But Obama is now the leading Demonrat candidate, and his whole career is: 1) backbencher in IL legislature and 2) a completely undistinguished 1/2 term in the Senate. A single speech before the last Demon convention put him on the map. Most people wouldn’t know Fred Thompson either, except for his acting career. Hardly anyone outside AR knew who Huckabee was. Jimmah Carter and Bill Clinton were obscure Southern governors, also.

Yeah, but Hunter doesn't have the advantage of being a Wonder Negro.

65 posted on 01/06/2008 5:55:17 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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