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A Degree of Insignificance (College Degrees getting to be useless nowadays)
WorldnetDaily ^ | 12/29/2007 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/29/2007 4:25:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: dsc

Nice. World Net Daily even embeds some hyperlinks in the passage to make it look authentic.


21 posted on 12/29/2007 4:49:18 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: GinaLolaB

Sheesh! Do you ever take responsibility for your decisions/life?


22 posted on 12/29/2007 4:49:49 PM PST by BARLF
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To: SeekAndFind; shag377; SoftballMominVA
The teachers at our school were told several years ago that 80% of the jobs in the 21st century would not require college degrees, but tech school instead.

No one seems to have told the Georgia Dept. of Ed., which thinks all students should be on college tracks, or the districts that are reducing vo-tech offerings...but it's gonna be hard to outsource plumbers, electricians, and automobile repairmen, I think.

23 posted on 12/29/2007 4:51:03 PM PST by Amelia
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To: SeekAndFind; abclily; aberaussie; albertp; AliVeritas; Amelia; AnAmericanMother; andie74; ...

Public Education Ping

This list is for articles relating to public education. Gabz and I have been asked me to take over the list so that Metmom can concentrate on home schooling issues. If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail SoftballMominVA or Gabz.
24 posted on 12/29/2007 4:51:11 PM PST by SoftballMominVA (Never wrestle with a pig; he wants to get dirty anyway.)
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To: GinaLolaB

Why do you think Bush caused this and not the market? I work for a corporation that has outsourced some of its engineering work to India simply because it’s less expensive as well as some creative jobshifting across North American. (We are under a lot of pressure from the shareholders to be “more efficient.”) And yet, they’ve not cut their North American or UK (AFAIK European too) staff — in fact we’re hiring for positions that were vacated.


25 posted on 12/29/2007 4:51:15 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: BARLF
Sheesh! Do you ever take responsibility for your decisions/life?

There are hundreds of people chasing one or two job openings. In the mean time, the student loan people are sending me letters everyday wondering where the money that they sent to the college for my tuition is.

26 posted on 12/29/2007 4:53:30 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Iowa State has an excellent reputation. I haven’t really heard of Rose Hulman but they may have a world renown engineering program.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 4:53:42 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: GinaLolaB
The teachers at my college sucked! I cannot pay the loans because I cannot get a job.)

I hear the military is hiring.... It is unlikely you would get shot at with a masters in accounting..

28 posted on 12/29/2007 4:54:12 PM PST by EVO X
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To: stuartcr
That’s certainly not true in the tech/engineering world.

Can someone then verify this statement from the same article :

"A Duke University spokesman said that 40 percent of Duke's engineering graduates cannot get engineering jobs. A Duke University publication suggests that the best prospect for good engineering jobs is for the U.S. government to start another major project like going to the moon. "

If it is true that there is great demand for tech/engineering in this country, how on earth can an elite college like Duke graduate engineering students where close to half are begging for engineering jobs ?
29 posted on 12/29/2007 4:55:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Maine Mariner
Students with egineering degrees are getting summer COOP jobs and earning $15,000-$20,000 for about 3 1/2 months work. They are getting 4-5 offers with starting salaries of $55,000 to $60,000.

The same article alleges that a Duke University spokesman says that 40% of their engineering graduates cannot get an engineering job !

Either this is false or there are literally no engineering jobs in that part of the world. I find it hard to believe that an elite school like Duke cannot help their engineering grads find work.

One other possibility is these grads have so high salary expectations that they are rejecting entry level offers en masse leaving employers no choice but to go overseas.
30 posted on 12/29/2007 4:55:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Education, communications, general studies, etc. are just certificates of attendance.

Come to New York City if you have an Education degree. The public schools are begging for teachers. The New York Post recently had an article on the teacher shortage in the City.
31 posted on 12/29/2007 4:55:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GinaLolaB
You have a Master’s in Accounting and you can’t find a “good job”? That requires a willing suspension of disbelief. Since the entire profession is looking for people at all levels, I don’t think your expectations match the market.
32 posted on 12/29/2007 4:56:19 PM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: stuartcr

Glad to hear that, just as I was wondering. Our son is a Jr at Boulder in Computer Science. He said no one is majoring in that and the field is screaming along, wide open for the soon-to-be grads.


33 posted on 12/29/2007 4:56:56 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: SeekAndFind
One of the major problems is student loans. The availability has allowed colleges to increase the tuition much higher than inflation. And it is continuing so that it is almost impossible for a college education for the middle class to the poor. Don’t see any easy answer.
34 posted on 12/29/2007 4:57:07 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I work in IT, and a college degree for an IT person is nearly useless. As a matter of fact the more educated people have been that Ive worked with over the years, the less ‘smart’ they are about the job.

A diploma helps an IT professional as much as it helps an auto mechanic.


35 posted on 12/29/2007 4:58:05 PM PST by KoRn
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To: GinaLolaB

My son got his MBA from Boston College in May. I can’t tell you how many job offers he got but there have been plenty. His biggest decision was which one to choose.


36 posted on 12/29/2007 4:58:35 PM PST by surrey
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To: SeekAndFind
"Among the 31 best opportunities for 2008 are the careers of firefighter, hairstylist, cosmetologist, locksmith and security-system technician."

Oh, please.

Either you go to college or you get a job catering to my children.

Trust me, you don't want that aggravation.

37 posted on 12/29/2007 4:58:57 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: GinaLolaB
In the mean time, the student loan people are sending me letters everyday wondering where the money that they sent to the college for my tuition is.

Sounds like you're pretty much out of options, unless you consider getting a job. First jobs out of college aren't always the best. Sucks to be you, but no more so than for anyone else.
38 posted on 12/29/2007 4:59:04 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: sionnsar
Why do you think Bush caused this and not the market?

Because Bush is always peddling the free trade agreements and globalization. He is even peddling another wonderful trade deal to South Korea right now. Bush even outlawed telemarketing and then the RNC exempted themselves and also outsourced their telemarketing to India.

Believe me, I know what the globalists are doing because I have taken all of those worthless college business courses. They are maximizing profits for the shareholders. Their opinion is to screw the American Worker.

39 posted on 12/29/2007 4:59:05 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: GinaLolaB
I think George Bush eliminated the accounting jobs and outsourced them to India.

You have a Masters and you come up with this? No wonder you have a problem.

40 posted on 12/29/2007 4:59:48 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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