Posted on 12/27/2007 10:41:00 PM PST by B-Chan
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BUMP!
Us or Them ping.
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Hey, Islam has said 'us' will be exterminated so 'them' can rule the earth. Since it's inception ~1400 years ago.
This is the feeling that I have been having for quite some time now... expressed more articulately than I have ever managed.
I think it was Csrlos Mendez who said the same thing in two sentances:
“You are going to get nukes, and you’re not afraid to use them? Well, we HAVE nukes, and we HAVE used ‘em!”
VietVet
There are only really two paths that we can follow.
The first is an attempt to change Islamic culture, to bring into the norms of a civilized world. The attempt to do this is costly both in blood and treasure and is by no means guaranteed to succeed.
The second path is genocide no matter how you try to phrase it. It is guaranteed to work and will come at a low cost in terms of our blood and our treasure. And ironically if we were anything like them we would do in a heart beat without looking back...
But it demands a very high price on our souls, so we pursue the first hoping to avoid the latter.
Worth a bump.
bttt
Ahem...On your second path, ummm, no thanks. Let's select your first option and work from there, Mkay.
Something like this...
"Look folks, you have told us time and time again that these terrorist attacks are the work of a fanatical few and are not perpetrated in your name, yet these folks that continuing blowing themselves and innocents into plasma claim that they ARE acting in your name -- and we do not see you doing much to stop them.
"That being the case, and since you refuse to identify them, turn them in, we are forced to categorically eliminate the threat by restricting Muslims to a set area and to subject them to the most intense scrutiny whenever they venture outside that area."
Terrorists do NOT operate in a vacuum. For every dingleberry that blows his lame idiotic self to supposed Allahland in hopes of eternal nookie, there are a huge number of people whose actions both overt and covert make it possible.
They include not only the Mullahs preaching Jihad, the actual recruiters, the bomb-makers, the financiers the paperwork artists, etc., but also the friends and families of the bomber.
I do not for a moment believe that these people would make a decision like that, or gather up the courage to actually volunteer for it, without letting their desires/intentions be known in some fashion prior to strapping on the device. And, that friends of mine, make those people just as guilty as the bomber.
Terrorists also need safe-houses, routine medical and dental support, food, clothing -- all the normal things everyone else needs, all of which have to be provided by people who know who they are, what they plan, and are willing to support them. They also bare direct responsibility for the deaths of anyone who the bombers kill.
Collective guilt? You betcha!!!
And as soon as the rest of the Islamic world realizes that they will be held collectively responsible for the actions of the Jihad-jockeys, the sooner the supposed moderates Islamic governments (assuming such actually exist) are going to start cracking down on the operations, eliminating the leaders and generally pouring cold water on the fires.
Interesting. The timing for this article is very appropriate considering that the Pakistan scenario may be the first case of the extermination option!
You’re comments sound familiar to me - in another context, of course, because I’m a Serb. That is to say, your comments sound similar to those made by General Ratko Mladic during the war in BiH.
I couldn't agree more.
I look at war as an economic problem. When you make the cost of waging a war so high, then people will reconsider the value of war.
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Islam is NOT our nation’s biggest threat. Marxism is!
We can survive nuclear suitcase bomb. BUT,,,we will not survive if the Marxist who infest our government K-12 schools, colleges, and universities succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters.
Well, of course, there is the third path of a West that is so consumed with self loathing, the elevation of every culture other than its own, the dissolution of national sovereignty and identity, etc. that it simply dissolves before the Islamic assault and submits.
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The Marxist and Useful Idiots who control our K-12 schools, colleges, and universities are hard at work doing just that.
The biggest threat to freedom is Marxism! And,,our schools are its most important weapon.
You’re right. Most people prefer to “go along to get along”.
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