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Deaf demand right to designer deaf children
The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | December 23, 2007 | Sarah-Kate Templeton

Posted on 12/23/2007 1:20:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls

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To: FreedomCalls

Why not pass a law that all IV children must be given a chance to live? Limit the number of embryos to be implanted. After a period of time, adopt out those that were not wanted. No more killing babies, no more mega multi pregnancies and they all get an opportunity to survive whether male/female, healthy or handicapped. If a baby is not wanted because it can hear then a “normal lifestyle” family could adopt her.


21 posted on 12/23/2007 1:39:44 PM PST by CindyDawg (Happy Birthday, Jesus.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Being partly disabled, I’d never, EVER wish such a condition on anyone, much less my own flesh and blood.

If these parents want to “choose” such a state for their children, then let it be their choice to foot the bill for the advanced care and education required over the kid’s lifetime — it’s a much easier “choice” if you know someone else will be taking care of things...


22 posted on 12/23/2007 1:39:50 PM PST by mikrofon
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To: FreedomCalls

HIV parents should also select children with HIV.

Who really wants a healthy child anyways?


23 posted on 12/23/2007 1:40:40 PM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: FreedomCalls

Unacceptable.


24 posted on 12/23/2007 1:41:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mikrofon

On the other side though, a child should not be discarded because of a disability. I would not want to see parents told that they will be denied any assistance if they don’t abort a child that is mentally or physically challenged.


25 posted on 12/23/2007 1:44:50 PM PST by CindyDawg (Happy Birthday, Jesus.)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

No joke. Rabid deaf activists even think the implant procedure that allows people to hear is some sort of cultural genocide. On a personal not I once worked for a state rehab agency. We had a client who at one time was a nurse. She got the implant (We did not pay for that, by the way) I helped her purchase a stethascobe that she could use in conjuction with her implant. You would not believe what something like that costs. But she is once again working. And paying taxes.

Now for my funniest “deaf, but not really” story. Guy came in the office one day. Asked him what he needed. He writes on a pad “Need to see a counselor”. I did not need to write ‘cause he appeared able to read lips. I set him up to see our counselor who specialized in deaf & hearing impaired. Meeting over, the guy leaves. Counselor calls me into his office. “Interesting guy” says he. “How so” says I. “He’s not deaf” says he. “What! Then what was with the pad?” says I. “He only speaks when he can do so in bible verse” says he. “Going to make him a client?” says I. “Yep” says he. “Pysch eval first?” says I. “Oh yeah” says he.


26 posted on 12/23/2007 1:45:39 PM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: FreedomCalls
embryo screening to choose an embryo = wrong

embryo screening to choose deaf embryo = wrong, wrong

choose embryos that will be ‘like them’, sharing the same characteristics, language and culture = imaginary and wrong wrong

27 posted on 12/23/2007 1:46:13 PM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: FreedomCalls

Oh, here we go!
You can’t give breeding couples the right to CHOOSE a handicapped baby without giving them the right to reject one as well.
What’s real interesting is what individuals consider ‘handicapped’. Eventually, the choice to dispose of a baby who will be homosexual -because they simply don’t want one, and it won’t ‘fit’ the family- WILL arrive. Then what? Can they then go back to redefine the parameters of parents’ ‘choice’ because discriminating like that is politically incorrect?
Who wants to bet that that is when all the enlightened liberals who support this insanity scream STOP?
Anyone who would want their child impaired or handicapped in any way is sick!
What happened to research to eliminate birth defects and such? PREFERRING an impaired child? Why don’t people like this adopt one- Lord knows there are many who can’t find homes because they are handicapped.


28 posted on 12/23/2007 1:47:40 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: outofstyle

Wonder if the same MP would allow it if I wanted to screen my embryo’s for a sodomy gene. Wonder how far I would get...Oh yes, now I remember that has already been denounced by those same liberal democRATS


29 posted on 12/23/2007 1:48:54 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: expatpat
I have no objection, so long as the parents accept no taxpayer $ or taxpayer-funded support for the child.

Bingo. How much is a deaf baby worth in the UK these days?

30 posted on 12/23/2007 1:50:25 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: szweig

It is not narcissism, it is a cloistered social culture, one that is almost rabidly liberal. My wife was enrolled in the Deaf Education Program of a well known university that operated in conjunction with a “school for the deaf” until she was able to fully understand what social dynamics were involved. When she realized that to become fully qualified to teach in this culture she would have to become immersed in it, she found the idea so repugnant that she quit the course.

“Deaf advocates” want to think they can set up and sustain a separate society where “deafness” is not considered a “handicap”. Indeed, at the time my wife was enrolled, there was some debate if a deaf person should take advantage of any medical technology to restore their hearing.

I can see where this all leads, that deaf people are to some extent cut off from everyone else and if they are able to have their own society, they are free to develop their own morality and social rules, which appeared to be exactly the case. This is so sad, for any deaf person with strong moral values will find themselves doubly isolated from the rest of humanity on a social level.


31 posted on 12/23/2007 1:51:59 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: FreedomCalls
Jackie Ballard, a former Liberal Democrat MP...

Explains it all.

32 posted on 12/23/2007 1:52:13 PM PST by fweingart (Life's a bitch. So why vote for one?)
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To: Fishtalk
I can’t understand how a parent could choose. Looking at embryos it’s not like comparing brands at Walmarts. How could someone say something like “ok, I don’t want a girl. Get rid of that one. HMM this one is deaf, this one hears. Let me think about those two. What about this one? Downs? No way. Ok now let me see....
33 posted on 12/23/2007 1:52:22 PM PST by CindyDawg (Happy Birthday, Jesus.)
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To: FreedomCalls

How very Muslim of them.


35 posted on 12/23/2007 1:56:41 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: FreedomCalls

WHAT ..??

Then why have many organizations spent years and years forcing the disabled child INTO THE NORMAL SCHOOL ROOM ..??

These liberals really are loons.


36 posted on 12/23/2007 1:57:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Christmas has come early for me.

My liberal spouse taught special education for many years. Children in various degrees being handicapped. Now the new phrase is "challenged"-I appraised her of this post, waiting to hear a feel good answer.

"Ridiculous", she said. The child will have to have specialized education. This will cost society more resource money in education . In spite of all the platitudes, their ability to secure decent employment will be hampered. Their interaction with the general population will be reduced, my spouse went on . "Selfish, selfish and selfish" she said.

We finally agree. As for me, I repeat that it is "me, me and more me".

37 posted on 12/23/2007 2:01:04 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: FreedomCalls
Wow.

Is that brimstone I smell?

38 posted on 12/23/2007 2:04:10 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Merry Christmas! Thanks, bfl


39 posted on 12/23/2007 2:08:05 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: FreedomCalls
This is satire... right?

Right?

40 posted on 12/23/2007 2:25:08 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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