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1 posted on 12/22/2007 4:13:24 AM PST by Man50D
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The agents were convicted and given prison sentences of 11 and 12 years for shooting after a self-confessed drug smuggler fleeing back into Mexico after leaving 750 pounds of marijuana in Texas, while Libby was excused from serving any of his prison sentence through President Bush's intervention.

The White House repeatedly has said there is a pardons request procedure available to the agents, even though Libby apparently did not go through the same process before Bush acted.

Based on Bush's pro-illegals and anti-law enforcement/Minutemen/Border Patrol stance, this is surprising.......why?

62 posted on 12/22/2007 9:13:43 AM PST by nicmarlo
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Well after reading through the thread it's clear now some are seeing the real Bush dynasty. When Clinton was in office it stirred anger that his family was doing China business deals. When Bush got elected and his uncle was having lunch with China's leaders while our plane was being forced down it was called Free Trade and opportunity.The Family Bush is as corrupt and power hungry and the Family Clinton. Politically there is not that much difference between them now was there that much between Bush and Gore in 2000. If you think Gore would not have taken us to Iraq you are wrong. He would have likely with a few possible variants done the same thing and people would be calling for impeachment for ignoring the real backers as in financing the 9/11 attacks. People would have also cursed Gore's nation building.

Gore like Bush would have complete apathy for any and all abuses the governments of Mexico, China, Saudi Arabia, and North Korea, have done against our nation both economic and other venues.

More proof? Here is it our military itself. I've checked the numbers. Clinton End Troop Strength Numbers the numbers set for allowed active duty military and reserves are the same as Clinton's in 1996. Yet no one cares especially Bush.

Bush's doesn't care what conservatives think nor share their values. He really doesn't even care what moderates think. He is in office to carry out a given agenda handed him in 2000. An agenda decided not by voters but rather in backrooms and corporate board meetings. Bush handpicked the ones who he knew would never dare question his agenda and appointed them to key positions.

Bush would not have lasted beyond one term had an event happened which because of fear allowed him to develop a marketing term for all his dirty deeds. He calls it the War on Terror. It has literally been the excuse for almost every act he has done. How many would have been outraged had Clinton or Gore for example proposed Department of Homeland Security or The Patriot Act? Yet because he is a Republican ones who are members of the GOP blindly and without reservations backed him.

Our nation is in deep serious trouble. Our choice for change comes real soon. I find it disturbing that the top four choices {two of which have helped carry the water for Bush in the past few years} are now being force fed as our only real choices. I can assure you Bush will be very pleased if McCain or Fred who have been his little helpers are elected as he will with Mitt and Rudy. But listen closely Bush will also be happy if HRC wins as well. It's all about an agenda. An agenda which people of power have used to lead this nation to hell in a handcart since January 1989.

63 posted on 12/22/2007 9:19:57 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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67 posted on 12/22/2007 9:32:11 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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IMO, Bush's refusal to commute/pardon Mr. Ramos and Mr. Compean has less to do with Mexico and everything to do with Johnny Sutton.

It cannot be overstated the fact that Sutton spent six years as Bush's criminal justice policy aide while Bush was Governor of Texas. For Bush to commute or pardon these men would be a slap in Sutton's face.

Bush's stubborn loyalty to his long-time friend and aide Sutton prevents him from doing what is right and freeing these wrongfully-convicted men. Bush's stubborn loyalty is one of his worst traits.

69 posted on 12/22/2007 9:40:56 AM PST by writmeister
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Jorge Abusto supports Mexican drug dealers.

75 posted on 12/22/2007 10:11:12 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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“Four congressmen – Democrats William Delahunt of Massachusetts and Silvestre Reyes of Texas, and Republicans Dana Rohrabacher of California and Ted Poe of Texas – signed a letter to President Bush asking him to commute the sentences of Ramos and Compean.”

“Delahunt, Rohrabacher and Poe earlier sponsored House Concurrent Resolution 267 asking the House to petition President Bush to grant clemency in the case. It now has 37 Democrats and several dozen Republicans as sponsors.”

So much effort, press conferences, hundreds of letters, House Resolutions, media appearances, rallies, photos...and not one second to write and submit legislation that corrects and redefines 18 U.S.C. 924(c) to get Ramos and Compean out of jail and home with their families for Christmas.

The corrective legislation could have been made retroactive to cover R&C. Concern for R&C cuts across both parties so their would have been trouble putting this on the fast track.

It could have been done by now. It seems this is the quickest and easiest way to accomplish the goal, but it hasn’t even been considered much less proposed.

Anyone care to wonder why?

It seems all this effort for Ramos and Compean should be redirected to getting Hunter, Poe and Feinstein to actually make something happen which they can control and see completed. But I doubt it will...fancy press releases, media ops and headline catching sound bites are much more productive politically than the tedious and unheralded work of passing legislation and it is far easier to just blame Bush.

78 posted on 12/22/2007 10:46:33 AM PST by Bob J
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Name one thing Bush has EVER done that the Mexican Oligarchy would not like.

[crickets]


92 posted on 12/22/2007 4:09:07 PM PST by Yaelle (FRED, the most intelligent choice)
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To: Man50D

bump


100 posted on 12/22/2007 4:24:53 PM PST by VOA
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Prosecutor Debra Kanof, in the office of U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton in El Paso, successfully convinced Judge Kathleen Cardone to seal all information about Aldrete-Davila's second load from the jury, thus preventing the defense in the Ramos and Compean trial from using this information to impeach the credibility of Aldrete-Davila's testimony under oath on the stand.

"Convinced." Yeah, right. Yet another corrupt judge basing decisions not on the rule of law, but on her own ideologies. Also, there's no doubt in my mind that this judge is in the back pocket of El Presidente Bush. Not only was information on Aldrete-Davila withheld from the jury, but the severity of the sentence of Ramos/Compean as well! For this alone, President Bush deserves to be impeached. Along with harsh prison sentences for Sutton, Cardone, Kanof and anyone else responsible for imprisoning these two American heroes. Needless to say, I'm not looking forward to 2008; especially towards the end of Bush's reign... er, term. Who knows how many more criminals he'll pardon, and how many more "refugees" he'll bring into our country.

176 posted on 12/24/2007 9:50:38 AM PST by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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Outrageous.

Some might wonder if that drug dealer was supplying somebody in or close to the White House.

204 posted on 12/28/2007 10:48:18 AM PST by Dante3
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This does not help Bush with his approval among conservatives, one doubts whether he even cares about it.


223 posted on 12/29/2007 12:13:30 PM PST by GregH
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Shameful—He’s been a great prez in so many ways but his blindness about illegals is sickening and totally undermines the good of his administration. Add this to his signing the lightbulb bill and this life-long Republican is no longer is #1 fan.


232 posted on 12/30/2007 1:29:25 PM PST by MHT
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