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Grim Reaping - Do You Really Know Roe?
Concerned Women for America ^ | 12/13/07 | J. Matt Barber

Posted on 12/15/2007 9:54:07 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: Brilliant

“There is nothing in the Constitution that guarantees a right to have an abortion.”

I agree.


21 posted on 12/16/2007 1:29:11 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wagglebee

The 50 million Americans slaughtered since 1973 in the aboruaries are the legacy of liberalism in America ... and the 400,000,000 world-wide prove to this old man that the movement is demonically inspired, for humanity was appearing to rise from the inhumane of our past at the turn of the 19th century to the 20th, and then again following the first World War, and then again in the struggle to become more humane following the heinous inhumanity revealed in the Second Wolrd War, yet the planned slaughter of the alive unborn innocent was being institutionalized in the name of ‘liberating’ men and women!


22 posted on 12/16/2007 1:42:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Brilliant

Not really an accurate summary of history. Abortion has been illegal, and almost universally considered immoral, in the US throughout our history. And in western civilization long before that.

The dam began to break in a few states not long before Roe v. Wade, yes. But it was part of the same leftist revolutionary movement, expressed earlier in Griswold v. Connecticut, which legalized contraception—also illegal everywhere in the US until the “sexual freedom” modernizers got to work on it.

The Constitution is not silent on abortion, or neutral, any more than it is silent or neutral on marriage. It’s just that people took these things for granted for 2000 years, and then suddenly the rules were changed. No one thought that marriage had to be defined as only between a man and a woman, because that was too obvious to need saying.

The constitution protects the right of every individual to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Whether that includes the unborn is a matter of debate, but it can be argued that unborn persons are included in the word “person” in the constitution. Conservative jurists have argued the matter, and it is probably something we will have to debate in the future.

But, meantime, Roe v. Wade was clearly an unconstitution exercise of sheer power that reversed the common consensus of law and morality of centuries.

“Because I could,” clinton once said. A tyrannical SCOTUS said much the same thing, in Roe v. Wade. Because they could.


23 posted on 12/16/2007 1:48:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Brilliant

Sorry, I think I misread you, and we probably agree on most of this. I’ve been doing too much snow shoveling, I guess.


24 posted on 12/16/2007 1:49:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MHGinTN

Unfortunately, you are way off on the worldwide abortion rate, more than ONE BILLION babies have been aborted worldwide since 1920:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp337sd.html


25 posted on 12/16/2007 2:05:25 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I was focusing on the world since our step over the precipice with Roe in 1973. My numbers may be in error since I haven’t even looked at a table of stats on abortion since 2004.


26 posted on 12/16/2007 2:23:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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Right now, there are approximately 1 MILLION abortions per week worldwide.


27 posted on 12/16/2007 2:34:06 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies

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28 posted on 12/17/2007 2:43:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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