L.A. Gangs: Nine Miles and Spreading

LA Weekly ^ | December 12, 2007 | Peter Landesman

[Dogbert41]

Mandatory hard labor for life for any crime - felony or not- commited by a gang banger. Or, fence off Mexico and just dump them on the other side.

[Senormechanico]

I couldn’t have said it better.

[rustyboots]

The suspects were identified as: Joseph Carter Jr., 42, of Wilmington; David Cole Jr., 64, of Long Beach; Debra Ann Johnson, 49, of La Mirada; Kenneth Bernard Riley, 45, of Moreno Valley; Gerald Plaze Thomas, 43, of Los Angeles; and Anthony Quin Wheeler, 47, of Inglewood.

And we will continue to support and provide for them just like we have for the past 40-50 years. It has been a waste of resources in the past and will be a waste if we do it again. I say “if” knowing full well that the government in California will still consider this individuals as deprived of opportunities and needing our sympathy and understanding.
The only thing they will understand is 5 minutes to make their peace and then a .45 behind the ear and.....

[Names Ash Housewares]

I have called it urban terrorism since the early eighties.

25 years later it’s worse then ever.

There is no courage to make the hard decisions to solve the problem.

[Senormechanico]

We could use more guys like Joe Horn.

[onedoug]

Why are criminal gangs legal?

[kellynla]

" According to the Department of Justice, today America has at least 30,000 gangs, with 800,000 members, in 2,500 communities across the United States. (Gang experts at the University of Southern California claim the number of American jurisdictions with gang problems has reached 4,000.) Federal, state and local law enforcement across the country agree that street gangs connected to or mimicking the L.A. model have become a national epidemic.

On New Year’s Eve so much automatic weapons fire pours into Watts’ airspace that LAX air traffic control must divert the flight path of incoming planes.

The U.S. military sends its medics to train at local trauma hospitals because the conditions in their trauma units so resemble live warfare...

Originally, L.A.’s street gangs were social and support organizations for immigrants and packs of neighborhood pals. Mostly their crimes were petty, and scores were settled with fists. Latinos and blacks generally stayed out of each other’s way.

All that changed forever in the late 1980s, when crack cocaine hit Los Angeles and neighborhood affiliation became secondary to what all the gangs now really wanted: a piece of the drug business...

By 2000, 65 percent of black male high school dropouts in their 20s were jobless — unable to find work, not seeking it or in jail.

By 2004, the number had climbed to 72 percent (compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts). Today, 75 percent of Watts’ adult black male population will at some point go to jail or prison...

Recently, in Jordan Downs, a Grape Street clique rebuffed by a 14-year-old boy who refused to join gang-raped his 12-year-old sister, taped the attack, and showed the video to the boy. The boy gave in and joined.

Older gang members and veteran police say the neighborhoods are code-less and anarchic...a former Grape Street Crip. “So how do we deal with it? We don’t. Alcohol, sex, marijuana. People are totally numb.”... the projects are federal property.

But Colomey’s unit has only 16 officers on duty at any given time. (One evening last year, three of his officers found themselves in a running gun battle with more than 300 armed gang-bangers who had collected in a park.) When I spoke with Chief Bratton, he admitted he had little idea what he was getting into when he took this job. The entire LAPD force has roughly 9,000 officers serving about 3.8 million residents, while New York City has about 38,000 policemen serving a city of 8 million: roughly one cop for every 422 Angelenos * vs. one for every 210 New Yorkers."



The L.A.P.D claims there are 100K gang-members in L.A. And the last F.B.I. report I read, MS-13 is in 42 states and expanding. So anyone thinking that eliminating jobs for illegals will force them to return to their home country has another thought coming. MS-13 is looking for members and they don't speak English!

Solutions: Martial Law, National Guard in the projects which are federal property, curfews, deport MS-13 & ALL illegals after BOTH borders are secured and double the L.A.P.D. They better start building more prisons on those vacant military bases.

[LiberalBassTurds]

Looks very interesting. Ping for a read tomorrow.

LBT
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[Jeff Chandler]

It’s the culture, stupid. I mean it’s the stupid culture.

[Mjaye]

Why are criminal gangs legal?<<<<<<<<<

They aren’t, but there are hoops LE has to jump through to show that the activity is truly gang related and not just friends hanging out. There are gang enhancements in CA law that add time to an offense if it can be shown that the perpetrator is a member of a criminal street gang and meets certain criteria. Many jurisdictions have obtained injunctions that enable LE to arrest gang members more easily without waiting for the major offenses. The gang members must be noticed that they are considered members of a criminal street gang and advised that further activity will result in arrest. That means you don’t hang on the corner with the homies, and many think it’s too harsh to stop gang members from associating. Because these injunctions are geographical in nature, some gang members merely relocate and move their activities elsewhere. Gangs are more mobile now than they used to be, and many are not dependent on turf boundaries. The Central American gangs here will pick up and go wherever it suits them to further their criminal agenda.

[vetvetdoug]

Is there a gang with the spray paint “777” anywhere? We are noticing this on walls on many of the buildings here in NE Mississippi.

[kellynla]

“Is there a gang with the spray paint “777” anywhere? We are noticing this on walls on many of the buildings here in NE Mississippi.”

Doesn’t ring a bell, but apparently there is now...in MS.

Welcome to Bush’s “war on drugs”

Here is an excellent source on streetgangs.
http://www.streetgangs.com/

[Roccus]

There ya go again, kellynla. Clouding the issue with truth, common sense and logic.

[kellynla]

You might be interested.

“Six O.C.(CA) Residents Suspected in International Drug Ring(Illegal aliens?)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939867/posts

[Haddit]

What this article does not mention is that we have Special Order 40 here. This prevents our police from inquiring the legal status of immigration. Even if they are known Illegal Immigrants and known to have been deported before, it is illegal to pick up a criminal based on his legal status.

It does say “Watts and neighboring Compton, historically and famously black neighborhoods, are already roughly 70 percent Hispanic”
“Colombian cartels, looking to reduce the risk of American prosecution, had transferred the bulk of the trafficking part of the drug business to Mexican and Hispanic-American gangs”
“The average American has a 1-in-18,000 chance of being murdered. In this area of Los Angeles, the chances are 1 in 250.”
“In this neighborhood 90 percent of young men have been sexually abused. I will say 99 percent of ladies.”

We have a mayor that has turned our city into a Mexican style city. It is a sanctuary city. My guess is that 80 percent of the residents here are Hispanic and that most of them are illegal. It is true that they start out here and spread across the country. It will take a federal force to clean out all the illegal aliens and gangs. If we wait until the anchor babies become voters or the Democrats manage to make illegal aliens legal, then we will have failed.

[Diogenesis]

"According to the Department of Justice, today America has at least 30,000 gangs,
with 800,000 members, in 2,500 communities across the United States."

Chertoff-Destroyer of True Homeland Security: “And my Job #1 remains to get all of them, every one, full Amnesty."

[mo]

“What this article does not mention is that we have Special Order 40 here.....”

IMHO,A good civil rights attorney can probably find cause in there somewhere...but I’m NOT an attorney!!!

[Haddit]

Special order 40 has been in effect for over 30 years.

[purpleraine]

There’s a fairly new book out titled Mexican Mafia. I highly recommend it. One of the things they are doing is shooting young black men who move into “hispanic” neighborhoods. The author cites three recent separate examples of innocent men walking down the street and getting shot. The MM believes that young black males moving in is a precursor to a black gang coming in; a gang that will compete with them for the drug trade.

[4yearlurker]

I grew up in a little community outside of Vineland,NJ called Buena Vista. I worked farms and delivered newspapers as a kid. made $1.60 an hour. I went back last year and stayed at a local (not a dive) hotel. It was filled with welfare bums and MS13 was spray painted on the motel sign. Further down the road toward Minitola I saw MS13 again on some signs. My heart sank and I was Pi$$ed off at the same time.