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L.A. Gangs: Nine Miles and Spreading
LA Weekly ^ | December 12, 2007 | Peter Landesman

Posted on 12/14/2007 9:04:30 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: wizr
Why is it so easy to hate, and so difficult to care for each other?

government is the reason. Thomas Sowell wrote a wonderful piece on how Sri Lanka was peaceful and many different immigrant groups got along well. Then over time the leftist in govt imposed pc garbage that pitted one group against another. Truly, government is the main factor in all serious problems we face. The left may yet succeed in destroying our once great Republic. Our Country is at the precipice. One way is Liberty and peace, the other is a Balkinized Socialist hell with the third world cancer eating away at our major cities.

21 posted on 12/14/2007 9:43:07 PM PST by sand88
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To: cripplecreek
Yep word (and action) all over these days is the mexican mafia ordered extermination of blacks in LA--take over time . . . doesn't matter to them whether they are gang bangers or not.

A local policeman on an anonymous blog one night posted basically this same thing that the LA gang stuff is getting so out of control if one can move out of LA they should.

Of course if I was in a compromised neighborhood which basically they all are, but a few (just a few can still live under the illusion they are not) and I happen to live in one of those. If I did not, I would be outa here. Yet it is all still just an illusion.

I would be concerned if I lived in Oregon, WA, Colorado ir even ID as most the exports are moving there and guess what they are carrying with them or maybe trying to get their already involved kid away from? You got it the vitriolic LA or Mexican birthed gang banger. And the NW is infamous for opiate use and Meth (now big Mexican import product with local small U.S. labs shutting down do to restrictive laws for purchasing the recipe items to make and effective policing).

22 posted on 12/14/2007 9:43:56 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: rustyboots
I probably haven’t said this the right way, but it is from the heart. Maybe my brain just isn’t into caring for these people anymore.,

you stated it well. These gangs have contempt for all we hold dear. The law means nothing. In a truly just society, they would be hunted down and terminated. In many areas of our major cities the rule of law is an impediment to peace and Liberty. A type of Reset is needed. I can see a day when incredible violence must be brought to bear on these gangs. Otherwise, we will be turned into a third world sewer.

23 posted on 12/14/2007 9:45:55 PM PST by sand88
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To: libs_kma

I wonder if that LEO was on Mitchell’s steroid list, I bet birdboy thought so after he was able to figure where his head was after he woke up.


24 posted on 12/14/2007 9:49:28 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: GOPJ
For the most part, don’t they just kill each other? Not that that makes it OK, but...

They are not known for their marksmanship, a lot of innocent bystanders get killed.

25 posted on 12/14/2007 9:49:45 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: cripplecreek

And we can all see what “benefits” they produced for the world. Can any language but the language of death reach these new “Fedayeen”?
There seems to be some many factors contributing to the decline of this country; this is but another one. Will citizens of this country ever tire of our decline and do something? I wonder if we will not end up with battles in the streets between the People and these gangs? At least I know not to hold a pistol sideways to shoot at someone? LOL


26 posted on 12/14/2007 9:50:01 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: sand88

Yeah. I wonder how different this whole article would be if LA and S. California in general were hard core conservative. You can bet your bottom dollar we wouldn’t be puttin’ up with this BS for a minute and it would have been contained a long, long time ago along with the illegal immigration take over (although a lot of thriving businesses employ them here so I am unsure if we (conservatives) would be part of the problem or part of the solution if we were the leaders in this part of the country. I would like to think once we realized we were giving our country away the latter).


27 posted on 12/14/2007 9:50:29 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Wil H
didn’t read the article ..

..Did it mention how many of those gang members were illegals....?

Thought not... <.p>The article was abut the black gangs of Watts. Absolute nilhism--no hope for these folks. An absolute nightmare right here in America.

Not everything needs to be viewed through the prism of illegal immigration. While that may be the case on the Hispanic side of the equation. The Absolute lack of hope for these folks and their endless cycle of nowhere is astonishing..

What is the answer? Enforcement, yes, but when 12 year olds have no hope of living and fo out each day knowing they will die and don;t care, then there is a VERY real problem here.

What struck me is that the gangs down there have devolved. There is no code of conduct, no rules, no civilians... no innocents in their minds. And it is spreading to a town near you.

How do I know? I travel five western states doing fairs. I see the customers-everyone is a wanna be gang banger. Hip hop and rap have helped this along...

SOme may have noticed in their town that Scarface memorabilia has taken hold. Out here on the west coast its alraedy passe. But the image of Al Pacino with his machine gun is a hero among youth...Blankets, t-shirts, toilet bruch caddys, everything is scarface.... Its all tied in...

In some respects I think the old band Devo was right, society is de-volving...

28 posted on 12/14/2007 9:50:39 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing"only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: rustyboots

The answer to gangs infecting surrounding neighborhoods...snipers with a sense of justice


29 posted on 12/14/2007 9:52:14 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: rustyboots

You’re not being harsh at all. I grew up in L.A. and was in school in the 50’s. We didn’t have much of a problem until.....sorry to say it, but, until the white people moved out. Blacks, Mexicans and Aisians make up the gangs. Asians aren’t as bad but still a problem. Normally Vietnamese are the worst of the Asians. I totally believe, as some, it’s genetic. That being the case, they have no choice but to be who they are. Genetics drives them to the violence, given half a chance. Not all are like that but the majority are. I don’t believe that it is the crowding of the cities, it’s just genetics oriented. We saw some of the same things when I was in high school in the 50’s but we out numbered them and they would back off. The interesting part was that they would react for no reason at all other than to look good to their buddys.

People wonder why there is racism in our big cities. Whites don’t put up with the antics of the gang members but the gangs don’t care. Whites move out of the area and leave the city to the gangs. Police can’t handle it because the liberals say the gang members have their rights. If White people even talk about minorities the wrong way, we now call it racism. It’ll end in a major conflict someday. The interesting thing is these gangs can’t survive without the working world. They are having a hard time now because industry is moving out of their areas. In Watts, companies don’t even want to put in grocery stores because those that live in the area will steal everything they have. During the Watts riots, lived in Englewood. Once the National Guard went in, things settled down. The papers said that 30 people were killed during those riots. Believe me, the number was well over 100. I am beginning to believe that the races can’t live together. Whites don’t like the Blacks, Blacks don’t like Asians, Asians don’t like Mexicans, and the reverse is true for all of them. Look at South Africa. The blacks ran out all the whites. Now the farms aren’t producing and the people are starving but the blacks won’t change. Genitics folks and nothing you are going to do will change it.


30 posted on 12/14/2007 9:56:56 PM PST by RC2
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To: Lorianne
The drug war fuels this, big time.

Along with subsidized housing, health care, and government schools.

A perfect storm of government programs.

31 posted on 12/14/2007 9:57:24 PM PST by secretagent
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To: Lorianne
From the Los Angeles Daily News, a 9/04 (8 part) series entitled Terror in our streets
32 posted on 12/14/2007 9:57:36 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: sand88

“Thomas Sowell wrote a wonderful piece on how Sri Lanka was peaceful and many different immigrant groups got along well. Then over time the leftist in govt imposed pc garbage that pitted one group against another. Truly, government is the main factor in all serious problems we face.”

I think 99.9% of FReepers would agree with you.


33 posted on 12/14/2007 10:00:16 PM PST by TheThinker
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To: ansel12

“It’s not a gang, it’s a club.”


34 posted on 12/14/2007 10:00:21 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: ansel12
Are they really “juvenile” gangs?

From an 11/07 LA Times article entitled Anti-gang sweep nets 6 arrests..............

The suspects were identified as: Joseph Carter Jr., 42, of Wilmington; David Cole Jr., 64, of Long Beach; Debra Ann Johnson, 49, of La Mirada; Kenneth Bernard Riley, 45, of Moreno Valley; Gerald Plaze Thomas, 43, of Los Angeles; and Anthony Quin Wheeler, 47, of Inglewood.

The above are described as alleged members or associates of the Crenshaw Mafia Gangster Bloods street gang.

35 posted on 12/14/2007 10:07:42 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Lorianne
*BUMP*!
36 posted on 12/14/2007 10:09:46 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: miliantnutcase
"A lot of these gangs are just puppets for the cartels south of the border."

Then maybe some JDAM's need to mysteriously find their way to some of these cartels (minus anything that might suggest "USAF", of course). It's not like the Federales coudld do anything. Their air force is all of nine planes...
37 posted on 12/14/2007 10:11:06 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: hole_n_one

That and race was my point, thanks


38 posted on 12/14/2007 10:11:26 PM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: RC2
I totally believe, as some, it’s genetic.

Ridiculous. As if a Vietnamese child growing up in a foster family, or many biological families, for that matter, is going to be violent.

Unfortunately, racism is sometimes found on FR and weekend nights seem to be a hotspot.

If White people even talk about minorities the wrong way, we now call it racism.

Interesting how you capitalize white like a neo nazi.

And, yes, saying Vietnamese are genetically violent is racism.

Genitics folks and nothing you are going to do will change it.

I suppose you have a "genitic" problem that results in a spelling disorder?

39 posted on 12/14/2007 10:11:58 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

I am not sure I want snipers. I want them to know that the People they threaten are the ones killing them. I am not advocating wholesale slaughter of any groups; just gangbangers with no value of human life. Maybe that is becoming a larger number.
And LA isn’t the only area with gang problems; it is moving into Middle America too. Illegal immigration is spreading hipsanic (read Mexican) gangs into areas where gangs were thought of when one talked about West Side Story.
I guess we will stock up on ammunition and see how long it takes before I need to step outside the door and start defending what is mine.


40 posted on 12/14/2007 10:18:15 PM PST by rustyboots
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