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Former Iran president: U.S. intelligence report was leaked by Democrats or independent groups
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| December 13 2007
Posted on 12/12/2007 1:50:09 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: Archon of the East
I don’t think NIE was using Chomsky’s writing. If anything, I think Chomsky had some NK insider telling him the ‘official story’, the same one that was told to NIE ‘informants’. It’s just strange that NIE was the only one who said so when even most EU countries’ intelligence say otherwise.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:05:34 PM PST
by
paudio
To: avacado
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:30:00 PM PST
by
BARLF
To: avacado
>>>
I think the reason that the Bush Admin declassified the entire report was to put a stop to any second guessing and spinning.<<<
Or perhaps, to make the "spinning and second guessing" of the NIE perfectly obvious!!!
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:30:36 PM PST
by
HardStarboard
(Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
To: knighthawk
Hey, friend,you might want to visit the NIC website link at post #22.
Look for the home page for choices if you decide to go there.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:39:18 PM PST
by
BARLF
To: knighthawk
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:40:26 PM PST
by
sappy
To: HardStarboard
Excellent point. I hadn’t thought of it that way. Thank you.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:42:21 PM PST
by
sappy
To: knighthawk
Former Iran president: U.S. intelligence report was leaked by Democrats or independent groups
He's probably right...
Chairman of the Experts Assembly Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
Ah, it's this dude...if I remember right, he's the editor of the magazine whose name I always forget, but it's the mouthpiece for Ali Khamenei. He's a hardliner, to cut to the chase.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:48:47 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: BARLF
Thanks for the link. I need to correct what I said earlier it seems. The NIE reports of discussion have been requested by President Bush but the NIE reports have been around since before President Bush. It’s basically Bush’s report.
Did I get it right?
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:50:15 PM PST
by
avacado
To: HardStarboard
Agreed! You stated it much better than I did.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:51:25 PM PST
by
avacado
To: knighthawk
"My primary speculation is that the report has been issued either by the Democrats or independent groups."
Wait a sec...did Rafsanjani say this?? When was HE president of Iran? I thought they were talking about Khatami. I've listened to Rafsanjani speak and frankly I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth. So I take back what I said in my earlier post.
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posted on
12/12/2007 3:57:14 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: mngran2
Why so many people are ready to vilify our political opponents before our actual enemies Ill never understand.
The Democrats ARE on our list of actual enemies...foreign AND DOMESTIC.
That being said, however, I don't trust this guy. I watched a show on PBS called "Showdown With Iran" and he was interviewed...he believes 9/11 was a Bush conspiracy and is a supporter of the hardline regime. So I'm not inclined to believe anything he says.
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:02:25 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: mngran2; Allegra; carlr; wallcrawlr; Tatze; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re:
If politics really should stop at the waters edge, then we at least have to give our Countrymen the benefit of the doubt before we believe an avowed enemy of our nation. Gadzooks, mngran! Have you heard what...
these Democrats you call "our Countrymen" have been saying for the past five or six years?
I stopped giving the Liberal Democrats...
the benefit of the doubt when they took the North's side in the Vietnam War. You do recall that one, don't you?
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:05:30 PM PST
by
Bender2
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
To: mngran2
he believes 9/11 was a Bush conspiracy and is a supporter of the hardline regime
Just checked my sources and this was actually a different guy I'm thinking of who said this, not Rafsanjani. But still, I wouldn't believe him either.
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:05:36 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: mngran2; avacado
Re:
Why so many people are ready to vilify our political opponents before our actual enemies Ill never understand. Again, what planet have you been on for the past decade or three? The Liberal Democrats have sided with just about every enemy the United States has since World War Two ended.
Tell me, just who do you and avacado consider our enemies? You two certainly have a strange set of values for posting on a basically Conservative Republican website that considers 'Merde' French for Democrat.
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:13:16 PM PST
by
Bender2
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
To: Bender2; mngran2
"Tell me, just who do you and avacado consider our enemies? You two certainly have a strange set of values for posting on a basically Conservative Republican website that considers 'Merde' French for Democrat." Dude, calm down! All I did was post a fact the the NIE report was declassified by the Bush Admin and not leaked as that Iranian kook was suggesting. You did read the article, right?
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:18:54 PM PST
by
avacado
To: avacado
NIE's have been around a long time but reads as if they are not called for regularly.
I was not trying to prove you wrong, which I didn't. I was just curious so searched NIC.
Spent some time at the site today and there is even an estimate up to 2015. Funny thing is some one wrote a fake letter from binLaden to a fake grandchild in 2015.
At least a thousand people worked on this 2015 estimate over several years. Can you imagine the cost of such a project?
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:21:36 PM PST
by
BARLF
To: BARLF
I am glad you posted that link about the NIE history. I learned a lot from it. What I posted I was recalling from various things I had read.
Glad you did the checking.
An NIE Report for 2015? You have the link for that? It should be a fun/humorous read.
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:26:50 PM PST
by
avacado
To: avacado
I see I misunderstood and made a boo-boo. My apologies, but I still wonder what planet mngran2 is spending his time on between his comments.
Silly of me, but I kinda go nuts when I see someone defending the Liberal Democrats who have not done any harm to our enemies at all while their actions have helped kill our men and women in uniform since Vietnam and they have kept it up right in to Iraq.
To me, 'Merde' is not near enough French for what I think about those traitors!
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:33:38 PM PST
by
Bender2
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
To: avacado
An NIE Report for 2015?
http://www.dni.gov/nic/NIC_globaltrend2015.html
President Bush probably did ask for the NIE Report. In time of war it could help, the thing now is, State, CIA and democrats hate Bush and want him to lose regardless the issue. Even the security of our country. JMHO
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:40:23 PM PST
by
BARLF
To: Bender2
No problem. And yes I agree 100% with you that the Democrats are treasonous traitors to this country. It’s more than obvious at this point.
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posted on
12/12/2007 4:54:13 PM PST
by
avacado
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