Posted on 12/12/2007 7:09:55 AM PST by SJackson
That’s Rudy McRombee.
“Thompson is opposed to amnesty and a guest worker program. He wants to end chain migration.”
uh. Every candidate, even Fred’s buddy McCain is now against amnesty. I agree that Fred has a very good plan now but he is a recent convert, as much as everybody else (except Hunter and Tancredo). He voted against a bill that would have mandated employers to check immigration status, but now fred-supporters imply that even the customers for those companies must check the immigration status (never mind that every illegal has good-looking green card and SSN, bought for $30). And don’t even get me started wrt to his aspirations for citizenship to illegals message from 2006.
Anyway, that is in the past, and I’m willing to believe that he would be at least as tough as the rest of the guys now.
The challenge is that it is very difficult to find any real policy differences between current positions of top-tier candidates and second-tier candidates. Even Huckabee seems to have now a good plan (I didn’t go it through, though).
Who is the candidate who has actually done something in this area when in office? I know Romney vetoed a bi-lingual education, and funding for illegal in education bills in MA early in his tenure, and he introduced a arrangement to enable local law enforcement to check immigration status (Bush admin and local dems delayed this for almost 2 years).
No.
That was easy.
Yeah. I love the Senate. Sure I do.
No. And this is just one "deal killer" issue. Add in their general philosophies about the size and scope of government, RKBA issues, and taxes?
Not a friggin' chance...
In all fairness though, the Huckster is better than Rudy McRomney on RKBA issues.
Huckabee Picks Up Minuteman Founder Endorsement:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/11/huckabee_picks_up_minuteman_fo.html
IMHO, the fact that Huckabee's anti-illegal-immigration plan has earned the approval of Jim Gilchrist and Mark Kirkorian shows that Huckabee has the best plan for solving this crisis.
On the 12 to 30 million illegals in the country:
Guliani says we have to “gulp them down”.
Huckabee’s solution is essentially the same as Guliani’s.
Mitt says they need to leave.
Get THAT GUY OUT OF THERE!!
They really do think we are THAT stupid.
Shame on them.
Dont they remember what we did to Dan Rather?!
Eagles UP! Three Weeks and Counting.
An excellent, self fulfilling prophecy.
The MSM has succeeded in it's objective.
Columnists tell us who not to vote for because they have been told by the Old Media who to not vote for.
Isn't that just special.
Interchange between the four of them, if necessary:
Rudy, Mitt, Huck, JohnnyComeLately McCain. Big fun. Arriba!
Or, alternately, it proves that Gilchrist is a moron.
Huckabee's record (actions)--based on historical reality.
vs.
Huckabee's plan (words)--based on future projection.
Please expand.
Do you chose your candidates based more on what they did/signed/voted/funded, as opposed to what they promise they will do in the future?
This is a key point. I am curious, sir (or ma'am).
“An excellent, self fulfilling prophecy.”
I agree that these two guys are the strongest wrt to illegals and the only ones who have a real track record.
However, there are many reasons why Hunter and Tancredo have zero chance of winning the nomination (VP slot is a different case - Hunter may have a real chance for that). It is not enough that they are totally right on this - I guess most of the forum members here have similar policy yet they have zero chance of winning. The right candidate must have decent executive experience (read: governor or similar) etc. Still, Hunter and Tancredo have helped the cause a lot. Now, current governors have hopefully learned their lesson and act accordingly and in next elections they will be top-tier candidates (VP Hunter would be ideal to follow Romney)..
Just curious. When you joined FR just last month, if I recall correctly, was it primarily to support and promote any particular candidate? Just wondering. Very best wishes, T76
NO!
probably for the same reasons as you. As a recent new citizen (who followed every %&^* rule and paid every fee ever created), I feel strongly about WOT and illegals but there isn’t much to debate wrt WOT as everybody here and every candidate agrees on that. Yeah, I support now Romney but my ideal candidate would probably be Santorum (actually John Bolton). Initially, when I heard rumors about Fred running (I didn’t know much about him then) I was very interested, but pretty soon I realized what he was about. I also can’t stand some of the untrue statements, such as Fred has always been tough enforcement guy. Only Hunter and Tancredo have real track record on that and all current candidates have pretty similar plans and policies (of course, trusting e.g. McCain on this is quite a leap).
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