Posted on 12/11/2007 8:12:09 AM PST by goldstategop
When Tancredo was caught using illegals to remodel his basement, he said that you can’t hold people responsible for who the companies they hire hire, and it wasn’t his job to check green cards.
If it’s good enough for Tancredo, it should be good enough for the rest of us.
Tancredo hired a company that hired illegals, and said it wasn’t his job to check their legal status.
But most here seem to trust HIM to be serious about immigration.
Your argument sounds serious but is not. It’s a sound bite pretending to be a weighty expose.
Yeah, “Sanctuary mansion” from a national debate, pretty heavy Rudy quoting.
Mostly, it says Fred isn’t concerned about that part of the issue. Sure, he mentioned it, because he was asked, and he didn’t dismiss it, which is something, but he said it wasn’t his primary concern and he wasn’t sure about it.
A LOT of people have changed their position on illegals. Fred’s one of them, and so long as they are now on the right side I’m happy.
I just hope nobody finds that Fred had an illegal immigrant doing his makeup for Law and Order, or all heck will break loose here as people’s heads explode.
If you think Tancredo is a problem then get on it, but nothing compares with this extraordinary saga of Romney’s illegal experience.
Tom Tancredo had illegals fix his basement. He said it wasn’t his job to check their immigration status.
Was the owner of the basement remodeling company a close friend of Tank? Did it take 10 years to finish the job?
“It is not possible or legal to check the immigration status of external company employees”
BS.
You want the contract? You provide me with proof of citizenship for every worker that sets foot on my property.
No proof? No contract.
I have every right to demand documentation.
Not doing so makes me complicit in fraud, tax evasion and possibly identity theft.
LOL :)
“Every homeowner is obligated by common sense to require acceptable and legal identification from every worker that comes to his home”
It would be illegal.
“It would be illegal.”
That is ridiculous, here is some contractor advice for consumers, from their web site.
“1. Ask for a copy of the insurance by email BEFORE you book service. Only schedule AFTER you receive it.
2. Get a set price in writing.
3. Tell the company that you will be home for the service (even if you won’t) and that you wish to speak to every member of the crew, to make sure each person understands exactly what you want in regards to service and what your concerns are in regards to your home. If there is any difficulty in this communication, or any member of the crew does not appear to be fully knowledgeable and trained, you will turn away service.
4. Ask for the names of every person who will be at your home, and verify the names when they arrive. It is your right to ask for identification of an person performing service on your property.
5. Most importantly, never pre-pay for service or provide a credit card number till after your service is completed. A company that cuts corners and saves cost by hiring illegal labor and defrauds their customers should not be trusted with the privacy and integrity of keeping your credit card on file.
6. Ask for a link to their Angie’s List reviews, or go the WWW.BBB.ORG and check out the company’s history.
7. If you hire a company that turns out to have illegal labor, you should report them to their insurance company carrier. They are committing a crime and putting your homeowner’s insurance in jeopardy. The insurance company is also being defrauded by the company. When the company you hire tries to save money, they may end up costing you money.”
I am a contractor, do you think that I have the authority over a homeowner to send anyone to his home, and the homeowner has to just sit there cowering and praying.
Any homeowner should require that all of my men show them ID.
“You want the contract? You provide me with proof of citizenship for every worker that sets foot on my property.”
This is clearly illegal. Discrimination based on nationality is illegal. End of story. Besises, fake ID cards cost $30.
BTW: Fred Thompson voted against the bill that allowed employers to check immigration status. Fred’s excuse was that it is not realistic to expect companies to evaluate immigration documents. Now fred supporters claim that even the customers for the companies should do it.
Discrimination based on nationality is illegal. End of story.
No it is not. Discrimination based on LEGALITY of a person being here is not illegal.
Not by a long shot.
I’m a businessman. I currently subscribe to several information warehouses. I can take your name...even if no SS number is provided and do a complete background check on you. If you mysteriously “appear” on a few databases 3 years ago...it’s a pretty sure bet you’re here illegally. I can ask for your SS number....whether you want to give it to me or not is completely up to you. If you don’t, then you and your crew of buttmunchers can stay off my property. With the background check I can find out if the 35 year old dude who’s digging ditches has ever been “on the books” or not. If not....he (and you) are outta here...faster than $hit through a goose.
For about 45$ a year any employer can access these databases. The stupid excuse of “I didn’t know he was here illegally” just doesn’t fly anymore in this current transparent society we live in.
“This is clearly illegal. Discrimination based on nationality is illegal. End of story”
I worry about your family if you think that the only ID required to force your wife to open the door is “the contractor sent me, you are forbidden any further inquiry, and if you don’t speak Spanish tough, just open the dam* door now”.
“It doesn’t matter who I am, I work for the contractor, therefore he controls access to your domain now” just doesn’t work at my house.
Answers: Don’t know, and don’t think so.
Proof of citizenship is not proof of legal status. The poster was saying we should only hire citizens.
If you mysteriously “appear” on a few databases 3 years ago...it’s a pretty sure bet you’re here illegally.
At that point I can ask to see your Legal Residency Card...or Green Card. If you can’t produce one....you’re outta here...
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