Posted on 12/11/2007 8:12:09 AM PST by goldstategop
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Don’t give up on Thompson/Hunter....
New Immigration Ratings on Presidential Candidates in 16 Categories
NumbersUSA ^ | Dec. 8, ‘07 | Roy Beck
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937699/posts
“The only candidates who don’t sound like converts are Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo.”
Are you on drugs?
Tancredo and Hunter have real track record, but Thompson is even worse than the 3 above mentioned. Thompson has been tough enforcement guy for what..4 or 5 months?
His senate record is awful, he generally sided with big business against enforcement and he didn’t introduce a single bill to combat illegals. More important, last year he promoted that illegals must have “aspirations of citizenship”. Yeah I know, generally supporting some sort of “comprehensive immigration plan” was popular last year, and all 3 front-runners and Thompson all more or less supported something like it, even though all stated that they don’t support amnesty.
ROMNEY RUNS HIS OWN SANCTUARY MANSION FOR 11 YEARS. GIVES IT UP ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO.
For about eight years, Rosales said, he worked on and off landscaping the grounds at Romney’s home, occasionally getting a “buenos dias” from Romney or a drink of water from his wife, Ann.
“She is very nice,” said Rosales, 49.
About 6 miles away in Copado, a 37-year-old man who recently returned to Guatemala from the United States told a similar story, describing long days tending Romney’s 2 1/2-acre grounds.
“They wanted that house to look really nice,” said the worker, who asked to remain anonymous. “It took a long time.”
As Governor Mitt Romney explores a presidential bid, he has grown outspoken in his criticism of illegal immigration. But, for a decade, the governor has used a landscaping company that relies heavily on workers like these, illegal Guatemalan immigrants, to maintain the grounds surrounding his pink Colonial house on Marsh Street in Belmont.
The Globe recently interviewed four current and former employees of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, the tiny Chelsea-based company that provides upkeep of Romney’s property. All but one said they were in the United States illegally.
The employees told the Globe that company owner Ricardo Saenz never asked them to provide documents showing their immigration status and knew they were illegal immigrants.
“He never asked for papers,” said Rosales, who said he had paid smugglers about $5,000 to take him across the US-Mexican border and settled in Chelsea.
The workers said they were paid in cash at $9 to $10 an hour and sometimes worked 11-hour days.
Romney never inquired about their status, they said.
In addition to maintaining the governor’s property, they also tended to the lawn at the house owned by Romney’s son, Taggart, less than a mile away on the same winding street.
Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away.
Until the Republican elites realize that the 2008 election will be won or lost on the ILLEGAL immigration issue, a President Hillary is inevitable.
Knowing their past track record on illegal immigration, voters are not convinced that they won’t see recidivism by these guys once they are in office and are more interested in getting favorable “compassionate” ratings and articles from the Washington Post and New York Times rather than answering to the will of the people.
George Bush and Karl Rove were willing to sacrifice approval of the war effort by turning off the supporters of that effort with their hell-bent strategy of open borders and amnesty. Why fight for our security in Iraq when we have given up on it here along the Rio Grande?
The RNC and the others in top positions in the Republican hierarchy are still working for the open borders and amnesty agendas, hoping that the public will soon forget or tire of the battle.
As long as the Republicans, especially the candidates, continue to be ambiguous on illegal immigration, they give the Democrats a pass on having to answer for their total support for illegal immigrants and voter fraud.
This is total BS story from liberal media. He used legal company and it is not possible or legal to check the immigration status of people working for external companies. Heck, even White House had illegal working for them (for a legal company that provided service to WH).
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
A scandal of this magnitude cannot be simply ignored. Romney was busted a year ago after ten years of using illegals at his property, the true believers tried to shut down discussion of that revelation.
The day after Romney was outed on national television for running a “sanctuary mansion”, reporters see illegals still working at Romney’s mansion.
More than a year after the original scandal broke we learned that Romney was still using the same Columbian immigrant and his illegals from Guatemala.
Tancredo would be the best candidate. But his chances do not look good. I hope Fred and Mitt truly have changed their position on illegal aliens - I tend to believe them. But Rudy/McCain/Huckabee admit favoring illegal aliens. Huckabee's so called change is merely babble.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Great piece. looks like Hunter is the only choice left. Conservos had better get behind him quickly. Without a real choice America will go Crat.
you just don’t get it. It is not possible or legal to check the immigration status of external company employees. People working for that company show up once or twice a week at customer’s place (customer does not even know which employee) and carry out his job.
As for Fred: I like his current immigration policy and I don’t think there is anything to be shamed on regarding his past positions. That was dominant position within the party and I believe that he realized the importance of it within the last year or so. I’m fine with it and I believe he would be tough on illegals, if elected. It is just the fact that some fredheads try to claim that he has been tough on this always that really piss me off. It is just not true so why try to claim so? It just distracts people. It would be more productive to focus on the fact that his current position is better than others have.
“If Romney is not serious about who he hires to work on his mansion, why should any one take seriously his pledge to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws?”
Here is Romney in an 11 second video on immigration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpUNVRNVk-E
” Romney is not serious about who he hires to work on his mansion, “
Let’s try it again. Romney ordered a service from a company, and one employee shows up 1-2 times a week. Romney (if he happens to be at home) does not have a legal right to check the immigration status of that employee. Got it?
It just might be you that needs to curb your intake...
Thompson Against Anchor Babies
15 September 2007 Written by: WTH Posted under Uncategorized, Fred Thompson, In the News, 2008 Elections, Illegal Immigration, 2008 Presidential Elections, Thompson's Record, Media Coverage Here is a great one to discuss. The so-called anchor baby is where an illegal immigrant comes here just to have their baby so that the baby is an automatic citizen. It has been so badly abused and Thompson has announced his willingness to revisit this law.
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Fred Thompson speaks out on immigration issues
On his campaign swing through Florida, Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson has hammered away illegal immigration, saying that America must secure its borders to ensure national security.
Friday, he went a step further.
Thompson, a former senator from Tennessee, said it might be time to reconsider the country’s long-standing practice — one prescribed by the Constitution — of granting citizenship to any child born on U.S. soil.
“That law was created in another time and place for valid reasons,” Thompson said during a campaign stop here. “It probably needs to be revisited.”
The granting of citizenship to anyone born in the United States is included in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
It says, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.”
The U.S. Supreme Court reaffirmed that in an 1898 court decision involving a Chinese man born in the U.S. to parents who were not citizens.
Since then, anyone born in the U.S. has been automatically granted citizenship apart from rare exceptions involving the children of foreign diplomats.
Friday, Thompson – for the second day in a row said he was willing to reconsider that.
“The question is whether or not it would require a constitutional amendment or change in law,” he said. He also said he wasn’t sure such a provision would ever pass.
“That one, I’m not sure about.”
Thompson said that the issue of automatic citizenship for children of illegal immigrants is not his primary concern.
“It’s not their fault,” he said. “They don’t determine where they’re born.”
A bigger problem, he said, was so-called “chain migration” – the practice of giving preferential treatment to the immediate family members of children who are born here.
Thompson said under current law, those children can “grow up and be used as anchors to bring in other people.”
He said he was “dead set” against that.
Thompson’s willingness to entertain the idea of withholding citizenship for children born here illustrates how important the immigration issue has become to Republican presidential candidates.
All have taken a hard line against illegal immigration but as of Friday no other contender has gone as far as Thompson
So, looks like Fred was first to get to the HEART of the matter which is the giveaway of American Citizenship just because an illegal alien blows one out on US Territory. AND he is saying NO ANCHOR BABIES. The reason? CHAIN MIGRATION. Which is the monster that will kill this nation.
Now when FRED says he is "Dead Set Against It" I tend to believe him. Unlike other candidates that are still trying to chase off the illegals from their own landscaping service just two weeks ago.
“and one employee shows up 1-2 times a week. Romney (if he happens to be at home) does not have a legal right to check the immigration status of that employee. Got it?”
That is a lie and you have been called on it many times.
Multiple illegals worked there, sometimes for up to 11 hour days.
Every homeowner is obligated by common sense to require acceptable and legal identification from every worker that comes to his home.
Why do you continue to spew the same horse crap every time Mitt’s illegals is brought up?
Romney had the illegals working at his house for 10 years.
A year ago it was out in the media that he had illegals working there. He admitted it.
Now its back in the media that he STILL has illegals working there. Again he admitted it but fired them.
He tried to explain it away by saying the guy that ran the lawn service was a close friend and went to his church.
Are you going to continue with the BS that he couldn’t get his “Close Friend” to get the freaking illegals off his property?
I don’t know how much Romney pays his trolls but it must be alot to post such stupid BS.
Quoting Rudy Giuliani now.....
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