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THE WOMAN WHO STOPPED THE KILLING (Colorado Gunman)
NY Post ^ | December 10, 2007

Posted on 12/11/2007 5:35:12 AM PST by Sopater

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To: VeniVidiVici
one quote I've read said that after she dropped him the vet told her to put a couple rounds in his head to make sure!

As I understand it, you're only allowed to shoot to eliminate the threat. If the attacker stops because he's wounded but alive, you cannot just walk up and finish him off. The threat is already gone.

She would have been in serious legal trouble, if she that.

81 posted on 12/11/2007 10:01:15 AM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Sopater

Pistol packing angel with the courage of a lioness........and she's single. Yowza!

82 posted on 12/11/2007 10:06:07 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: raisetheroof
She would have been in serious legal trouble, if she that.

Possibly. But what state's attorney would refer and what jury would convict in these circumstances?

83 posted on 12/11/2007 10:21:49 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: raisetheroof
She would have been in serious legal trouble, if she that.

Uh, yeah (choking sound in background) - yeah, "finishing shots" aren't a part of your usual tactical scenario. This ain't the movies.

I've had to give some serious thought this last week into my own capabilities in this regard. I've been getting by with a little 9mm in normal carry because it isn't any more cumbersome than a cellphone. In the scenarios in the Oklahoma mall or the Colorado church I'd have found myself at the outside edge of effective range with precisely six shots before a reload. If the opponent has body armor and an assault rifle that might be considered slightly under an optimal situation.

These things are good to review now and then. Encountered a hunter while Christmas shopping last week who was sporting a largish revolver in a shoulder rig on the outside of his jacket. That might have been a little more like it. No one turned a hair, but then it was that kind of a store. Might be a bit much for church wear...or maybe not...

84 posted on 12/11/2007 10:35:25 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: tioga

Liberals worship victimhood, that’s why heroes make them so uncomfortable.


85 posted on 12/11/2007 11:04:43 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (I think I'll buy everyone a carbon credit for Christmas.)
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To: Earthdweller

I was thinkin’ Joan of Arc.


86 posted on 12/11/2007 11:07:25 AM PST by incredulous joe (Say 'YES' to Waterboarding for International Terrorists!! ;0))
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To: Sopater

Anybody know where she hit the perp?

Was it a headshot?


87 posted on 12/11/2007 11:08:09 AM PST by incredulous joe (Say 'YES' to Waterboarding for International Terrorists!! ;0))
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To: raisetheroof; VeniVidiVici
As I understand it, you're only allowed to shoot to eliminate the threat. If the attacker stops because he's wounded but alive, you cannot just walk up and finish him off. The threat is already gone.

Most LEOs are taught to reassess the threat only when changing their magazines.

88 posted on 12/11/2007 11:12:07 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

heroes might just lead the sheeple to stand up and do for themselves.......THEN how would they buy votes to dominate and rule


89 posted on 12/11/2007 11:12:21 AM PST by tioga (Dear Santa..........I can explain....)
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To: Sopater

Now THAT is what I’d call “pray and spray”.


90 posted on 12/11/2007 11:14:30 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: ichabod1
It’s not their fault. I don’t blame them for not charging in when it would be tactically stupid.

It's "not their fault"? That is your reasoning for the cops "monitoring" a massacre? Local governemnts all over the country spend MILLIONS on tactical weaponry, electronics, vehicles and training and you say it's not their fault so they should be passive? Of course the cops have no problem breaking down the door of someone with a joint and shooting their dog and maybe them. Disgusting.

Why spend the money for this stuff? Just send in a cleaning crew when it's over.

91 posted on 12/11/2007 11:22:06 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
In other words, though I’m sure a lot of cops would protect citizens, it’s not in their job description

Funny, all these years I've heard the police motto is "To Serve & Protect." Just a catch-phrase for passing more laws and resticting the law-abiding I suppose.

92 posted on 12/11/2007 11:25:39 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: incredulous joe
"I was thinkin’ Joan of Arc."

HaHaha! A little worship going on there? :)

93 posted on 12/11/2007 11:44:23 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: OB1kNOb

In the words of Rodney Dangerfield in "Back To School" ~ "What a woman!!"

God fearing, beautiful and single. I might have to move to Colorado. LOL.

94 posted on 12/11/2007 11:49:54 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: shiva
If he did shoot himself - and I do not believe that he did - it was because he realized he had no way out but wanted to remain in control.

If she had not stopped him, there surely would have been many more victims.

Either way, she is a hero who saved lives.

95 posted on 12/11/2007 11:54:50 AM PST by Dante3
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To: ReignOfError

She looks kinda young to be a colonel of anything, especially a police agency or a military reserve unit. Maybe she looks younger than she is, but I think the Post got that wrong.


96 posted on 12/11/2007 7:16:44 PM PST by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: sig226
She looks kinda young to be a colonel of anything, especially a police agency or a military reserve unit. Maybe she looks younger than she is, but I think the Post got that wrong.

I agree that it is probable the Post got it wrong. No one else -- and I have searched -- has any military rank. It's an anomaly. Unless they document that she's a colonel of something or other, I'm more inclined to trust the eleventy sources that agree than the one that doesn't.

97 posted on 12/11/2007 8:07:27 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: twntaipan
The older I get the more I think that liberals/secularists project on to the state the attributes of God.

They seek to recreate Eden, never mind the fact that even God failed to make it compatible with humanity.

98 posted on 12/11/2007 11:13:29 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"She would have been in serious legal trouble, if she that."

"Possibly. But what state's attorney would refer and what jury would convict in these circumstances?"

I agree with you. People pro and con will be picking through the facts and rumors for years trying to make a point.

99 posted on 12/12/2007 12:01:16 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: Dante3

According to the Denver Post he shot himself with a 9mm in the head.He was hit twice in the thigh and once in the wrist by Ms. Assam. He was carrying a Bushmaster AR-15 with 1,000 rounds plus 2 9mm pistols. No mention of body armor but he was wearing a backpack, vest with pockets and another ammo belt.
This guy could have very well killed a lot of people.


100 posted on 12/12/2007 3:40:54 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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