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Shas minister: Americans' attitude to report reminiscent of Auschwitz
Ynet ^ | December 9, 2007 | Roni Sofer

Posted on 12/09/2007 3:39:18 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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1 posted on 12/09/2007 3:39:20 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative; Alouette; SJackson; Yaelle

Israel is a crucial ally for strategic, economic and most of all, spiritual reasons.

Those who stand with Israel will be blessed, and vice versa.

May we ensure our leaders never forget that.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 3:48:19 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It seems to me that Minister Cohen is overstating his objection just a wee little bit.

It might also do him some good to reflect on the fact that we were the ones who eventually liberated the camps and exposed the German’s atrocities to the world. He should also reflect that the US has been Israel’s only consistent friend even in the face of such provocations as the sinking of one of our naval vessels. I would say the Minister needs a little perspective.


3 posted on 12/09/2007 3:48:21 PM PST by saganite
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It might also do him some good to reflect on the fact that it is the liberals in this country who are embracing the NEI report.


4 posted on 12/09/2007 3:51:53 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Israel is a crucial ally for strategic, economic and most of all, spiritual reasons.

Israel does what it sees to be in its best interest. That usually, but not always, coincides with what is in our best interest.

5 posted on 12/09/2007 3:52:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: West Coast Conservative
Israel is going to have to take decisive military action in the near future. Diplomacy and sanctions have outlived their usefulness. Resolved: Israel cannot live with an Iranian nuclear bomb.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 12/09/2007 3:53:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

What an ungrateful ass. Mr. Cohen should ask Europe for help.


7 posted on 12/09/2007 3:53:08 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Typical blackhats winning friends and influencing people as usual.

I’m as mad about the NIE’s obvious sabotage of Bush as anyone, but tarring Americans with a broad brush and throwing Auschwitz into the mix is not doing any good.


8 posted on 12/09/2007 3:54:52 PM PST by sinanju
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But, dont you know? All Americans are stupid...or fat...or lazy...or health obsessed...or greedy... or whatever else the thought bosses feed into the mindless drones.


9 posted on 12/09/2007 4:09:40 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: West Coast Conservative

And exactly where would Israel be without our help over the years that came at great expense to us?

You can cast all the scorn you want on the CIA but don’t call the NIE a product of America and particularly Americans. It is a product of anti American operatives pushing their own agenda and it will be exposed as just that.


10 posted on 12/09/2007 4:12:59 PM PST by DB
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To: sinanju

Yes, giving the impression that Auschwitz is somehow our fault is really, really low.

Say thank you and shut up.


11 posted on 12/09/2007 4:15:07 PM PST by DB
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To: West Coast Conservative
...related.

Column One: The abandonment of the Jews


12 posted on 12/09/2007 4:23:24 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: West Coast Conservative
looks like treacherous Iran NIE is having exactly the impact it was intended to have, to divide and weaken.

its authors must be proud of the damage they are doing with their work of fiction.

13 posted on 12/09/2007 4:26:39 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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"But, dont you know? All Americans are stupid...or fat...or lazy...or health obsessed...or greedy... or whatever else the thought bosses feed into the mindless drones."

Yes. I can't understand as to why British sentiment about us has gone that way.
14 posted on 12/09/2007 4:27:27 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: familyop

Was it ever really any different?


15 posted on 12/09/2007 4:34:08 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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16 posted on 12/09/2007 4:37:26 PM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: DB
"You can cast all the scorn you want on the CIA but don’t call the NIE a product of America and particularly Americans. It is a product of anti American operatives pushing their own agenda and it will be exposed as just that."

Yeah!

Iran Assessment Creates an Israeli Headache
On News/Activism 12/09/2007 3:19:19 AM PST · 8 replies
Time ^ | 06DEC07 | TIM MCGIRK
Excerpt:
"At the Annapolis peace talks last month, the Israeli team — Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak — didn't have high expectations for making headway on the Palestinian issue, but they were confident of pressing their case on Iran to a receptive White House. Instead, Barak was taken aside by U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and told that new intelligence persuaded the Americans that Iran wasn't such a big threat after all."


17 posted on 12/09/2007 4:58:25 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: Parley Baer

and it would do us some good if we don’t allow those liberals to be in charge of this country


18 posted on 12/09/2007 5:51:43 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka! It’s just another ordinary miracle today.)
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To: sinanju

it’s too bad he didn’t listen to what Rav Shach said:
http://chareidi.shemayisrael.com/archives5762/toldos/T62orshachspch1.htm

“This I also want to say to you, that we must not antagonize the peoples of the world. We are bound by three oaths, including a vow not to go up with force and not to antagonize them. Everything should be done peacefully. We need not be afraid or make a commotion. On the contrary, we should go with a smooth and pleasant policy.

We have to recognize and acknowledge what America has done for us and is doing for us, our whole lives. During the war with Iraq, she did much for us. We may have beaten them [by ourselves], but they certainly prevented the loss of many of our lives. Without American help we would not have been able to stand up to the rockets of Iraq. America fought and did us a big favor, and we must recognize and acknowledge what she has done for us, whether from pure motives or not. We must express our gratitude for the favor she has done us. We must not rebel and reject her; we must express our gratitude.

Also with regard to what America is doing now, we must understand that she has all kinds of alliances and obligations to others. Naturally we cannot agree to all the things she does. However we must realize that she has all manner of other obligations, and we must not reject her, and we must always remember what Chazal say, “Don’t rebel against the nations of the world.”


19 posted on 12/09/2007 6:00:42 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka! It’s just another ordinary miracle today.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"How can we rely on the Americans if they publish this report that emasculates what the world explicitly knows regarding Iran, and renders impotent the entire struggle against the Iranians?"

Its a good question. America has been and still is Israel's only earthly ally. Still, CIA and State worry me. A congress that can send men into war and then undercut those very men, worries me. And the men who wrote this report that denies in the first line what the rest of the report affirms, these men worry me.

The fact that Bush did not clean house, or perhaps tried and failed as in the Porter Goss episode, this worries me.

And, for that matter, the fact that Israel can elect a man like Olmert when they are right on the edge, that also worries me.

Iran cares not a whit what is in that report, and they most assuredly do not fear the men who wrote it. I think they feared the Bush that could topple the Afghans with a hundred green berets, and they feared the Bush that could topple Saddam in a week of fighting. I don't think they fear any of us right now. They've learned what the Vietnamese learned; you don't defeat the Americans on the battlefield, you defeat them in Washington DC, you beat them in the newsrooms, and you defeat them in the halls of congress.

20 posted on 12/09/2007 7:08:54 PM PST by marron
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