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Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church
Fox News ^ | 09 DEC 07 | Fox News

Posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:26 PM PST by aomagrat

Edited on 12/09/2007 12:59:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Quix
BTW,

I THOUGHT

Conservatives championed the healthy free-wheeling non-conformities and nonconformists of our land???


Um, that would be a *progressive* attitude, not a conservative one, socially speaking. You confusing it that with innovation in the marketplace. However, here we are speaking on your social non-conformity.

Read your own words...they betray you.
1,361 posted on 12/10/2007 12:41:49 AM PST by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Tehran.)
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To: Quix
I personally tend to define courtesy as an...

This *is* all about *you* isn't it? You're definition does not surprise me. Stop rationalizing and thinking of yourself.
1,362 posted on 12/10/2007 12:44:09 AM PST by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Tehran.)
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To: Balata
In the article you linked to is this:

Police in Arvada said the New Life violence was likely related to the shooting early Sunday morning when a man opened fire after he was denied shelter at a dormitory for Christian missionaries in training. [Emphasis mine]

I've started to see this quote now in a number of news reports. Sounds as if the MSM is coalescing around the spin that has been decided to be applied to this particular story. I.e. readers are supposed to think, "Well! What on earth were those hypocritical Christians thinking?!? Sure, the guy massively over-reacted to their denying him shelter on a cold night, but after all, they were partly responsible for bringing this on themselves!"

Those five words - "after he was denied shelter" - are a grossly negative spin of the available facts so far:


1,363 posted on 12/10/2007 12:48:51 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: Balata

Thank God you did not go to those services yesterday morning!


1,364 posted on 12/10/2007 2:48:36 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: bluefish

SAYING SOMEONE IS INSANE

Crosses a line into personal, person-hood assault.

I’d have thought that awareness was clear to you regarding the rules of the forum.

. . . speaking of rationalization . . .

. . . and of arrogance . . .


1,365 posted on 12/10/2007 3:03:56 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: bluefish

I’d have thought that my fiestiness was also

CLEARLY

AGAINST

an irrational form of internet

GROUP-THINK

out-of-place on a conservative forum.

. . .

and not against individuals.

It’s interesting that you alone seem to have taken great personal offense.

Is that a hobby or an avocation?


1,366 posted on 12/10/2007 3:05:42 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Eva

The drugs certainly don’t help and, imho,

push plenty of vulnerable, rejected, hurting, angry kids over the line.

Interestingly, as I understand it . . . in the original Hebrew . . . the meaning of satan’s earliest names included the meaning of

—music—as in even parts of his body were musical instrument sorts of somethings and
—drugs, pharmacopia, particularly mind-altering stuff


1,367 posted on 12/10/2007 3:08:12 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Balata

Did not mean anything except that memories of past investigations in Colorado - not in Colorado Springs so I apologize for that wording - as in other places around the country - have not been forthcoming with all the facts very quickly.

Was thinking of the Columbine High School shootings and of the Jon Benet Ramsey murder.

Sorry did not mean to impune the people of Colorado Springs. Again, I apologize.

I guess the strongest memory is of what went on at Columbine and that even years after that tragedy, the full truth may not be out there.

Same with the Ramsey case.

And, of course, there have been many incidents of violence (like the Oklahoma individual who blew himself up on a bench outside a college football stadium)....in other places...in which the full truth of what occurred never has been made public.

So it’s not just a Colorado investigative “tendency”.

Again, apologies for my comments...they were unthinking.

Hoping that all is made known as soon as possible about these shootings by LEO.

It could be another Columbine type of planned attack....cut short by the heroic actions of that volunteer female Security Guard!

I just hope we get all the facts about it asap.

Not confident that we will.

Thoughts and prayers continue to go out to those directly affected by this tragedy.

And continue to thank GOD for His mercy in having that security Guard there at just the right place at just the right time to avert worse tragedy.


1,368 posted on 12/10/2007 3:09:37 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: yorkie

Too late.

Already had my cluster . . . and some extra almonds to go with it. I prefer slightly coated almonds so supplement the ROCKY MOUNTAIN CHOCOLATE FACTORY’s dark chocolate clusters with extra almonds. Mmmmmmmm

Though sometimes I have my cluster in the mornings.

Yeah, usually Doc says heart et al are 20-40 years younger than my chronoical age.

Which reminds me, I keep intending to order a ROYAL ARTERIAL FLUSH.


1,369 posted on 12/10/2007 3:10:17 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: GoLightly

Please ping me if more facts are posted about this incident. Thanks.


1,370 posted on 12/10/2007 3:11:57 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Theo

Yes, see 1368.


1,371 posted on 12/10/2007 3:12:48 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: incindiary

The NWO folks and their evil puppet master are scheduling a fire sale on

SURREAL . . .

They want a major surreal generator in every home . . . certainly every TV, community, media outlet . . .

Thankfully, those who know Jesus are more reality based spiritually than all the tangible could ever foster.


1,372 posted on 12/10/2007 3:12:55 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Khepri

Awwwwwwww,

I didn’t know you cared.

. . . speaking of drama queens . . .


1,373 posted on 12/10/2007 3:13:51 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Tree of Liberty

AMEN!


1,374 posted on 12/10/2007 3:14:18 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: cookcounty

Sorry not a good comment - my apologies....was unthinking.

See 1368 for explanation and apologies.

Did not mean to impune the good people of Colorado Springs or of Colorado. Was talking more about the investigations into crimes there in Colorado which were not forthcoming with the facts at the time of the tragedies....and even after many years still there are many questions about those crimes.


1,375 posted on 12/10/2007 3:15:34 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Khepri

I didn’t realize you’d won the contest for Thread Nanny.

Odd I didn’t get a vote.

Oh, CONGRATULATIONS!


1,376 posted on 12/10/2007 3:15:51 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Excellent listing of facts and points made.


1,377 posted on 12/10/2007 3:17:00 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I just hope we get all the facts about it asap.

Not confident that we will.

Thoughts and prayers continue to go out to those directly affected by this tragedy.

And continue to thank GOD for His mercy in having that security Guard there at just the right place at just the right time to avert worse tragedy.

= = =

INDEED.


1,378 posted on 12/10/2007 3:19:02 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

I picked up on this spin yesterday on Fox. Blame the victims not the perp...seems like “normal” journalistic bias to me. You’d think the reporters would at least entertain the thought that the guy was hanging around to “scope” out the scene.


1,379 posted on 12/10/2007 3:20:58 AM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53

He had a car and they say they are searching a home? That doesn’t sound like he didn’t have a place (or the ability to find a place) to sleep.


1,380 posted on 12/10/2007 3:27:18 AM PST by CindyDawg
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