Posted on 12/07/2007 6:34:47 AM PST by Sopater
Please elaborate. What you wrote could be taken several ways.
| Tar | 85% |
| Carboxlic acids not important to life | 13.0% |
| Glycine | 1.05% |
| Alanine | 0.85% |
| Glutamic acid | trace |
| Aspartic acid | trace |
| Valine | trace |
| Leucine | trace |
| Serine | trace |
| Proline | trace |
| Treonine | trace |
*** God is not in the rules of science. ****
Historically speaking, it was the belief that God existed and He had rules, and by observing those rules, mankind could grow in his understanding of the world around him and the God that created him. Therefore,
*** God created the rules of science. ***
This expanding base of observations became Western Science. The most powerful science of all the cultures of the earth. These rules will work whether you believe in Him or not. He is their author. And He knows more about them than we do. In fact, I find it most elegant that these rules work regardless of your faith in Him or not. It allows faith to be supreme. Reason is good, but faith is better.
If this is true, Gonzales might not need tenure. He might be in a position to retire once his claims are litigated.
“publishing practically zilch in scholarly journals”
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=1362
I count 68 refereed publications, many as first author or sole authorships. Is that “zilch”?
I can’t speak to the number of students graduated, at many universities untenured faculty are discouraged or even prevented from serving as dissertation advisors.
God on science experiments:
Matthew 5:45
that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
Is that when he got hooked up with the Dyscovery Institute?
(What's the point of doing science when you already know it all?)
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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
How's that for an extended experiment?
What was your post supposed to mean?
Fantastic solution, or at least one large part of it.
Another flaw in the atheist-evolutionist arguments is when they speak from ‘science’ as their podium (which I honestly do not know or describe you as such) and they use that as a tool to deny or exclude existence of god, and then 'existence' as described before their courtroom by their rules on their ever morphing playing field yada yada yada.
He who has no name Yehova , अनन्त, अनंत, अनन्ता, अनंता or infinite names, all things come from him (all eternity’s, life, consciousness, etc), but ‘he’ is beyond all concepts and vision of existence, and ‘he’ has no need to be proved. certain verities are. God will not appear in the witness stand before them. God is in Man's heart/or not by the choice of the man/woman, that is where the drama is played out before God.
These arguments become all just little games that man plays out in his time on this little mudball swirling around in space. What happens here in his beyond infinite consciousness is like as an electron which has been split into smaller sub-atomic particles, and the earth being one of those.
A man can reject him, be blind to him, or seek him. If he rejects him, he can so with as much vigor and intellect as he might seek him. I think the smartest wisest men will seek him.
Queen to King 4 checkmate also does not prove the existence of God.
Queen to King 4 checkmate proves your existence and consciousness and they do not know from where it comes. They reject god, so they look elsewhere and they see it in a mythical puddle or sea that becomes alive on its own will, then later they see it in an imagined apelike ancestor. And if they repeat the myth well enough, they are rewarded, here and after.
An essential element of science is to ignore that which is not specifically part of the experiment. Again, using the chess analogy, it doesn’t matter if God was responsible for creating the game, because He omitted Himself from play. Therefore, God neither wins nor loses, nor influences any of the chess pieces, as far as the game is concerned. Either winning or losing doesn’t matter to God, nor does playing or not playing. God does not intervene because intervening is meaningless to God.
Ironically, from the viewpoint of God as singularity, God only matters if you hope to get something “out of God”. In turn, that may be the very definition of “vanity”, the willingness to surrender the particulars of life to God in exchange for avoiding unpleasantness in life. In other words, avoiding responsibility for your own life—hardly a desirable trait.
In Kabbala, God created an “absence of God”, in which He created the universe, as something like a mirror, so that “God could look upon God”. This would answer the one and only question that “I Am” had, which was, “Is there anything that is not God?”, at which point the universe is no longer needed, so ceases to exist.
The covenants with man followed the traditional contractual style of the time, which implied that if mankind adhered to the covenant, it would be blessed, but if it violated the covenant, it would be punished. This led to the conclusion that God would be doing the blessing and the punishment “personally”, as it were.
But this was clarified with the Mosaic covenant, which while exclusively for Hebrews, not for the rest of mankind, explained that covenants were guidelines. If you adhered to those that applied to you, the blessings and rewards came automatically from that adherence. Likewise, violating the covenants was its own punishment.
A crude analogy would be if a commandment was “Don’t touch that stove, it is hot”. If you went ahead and touched the stove, it was the stove that burned you, not God who had warned you not to touch it.
Such an interpretation broadly changes the interpretations of the covenants between man and God. Christians oddly adhere to covenants that by their doctrines they should reject, and adhere to other ones, rather selectively, that should not apply to them in the first place. But they have long been an odd lot, integrating other religions’ Gods and demons and practices into their own, even the pagan ones.
From the Jewish point of view, again, Christians can just be lumped together with everybody else who to a greater or lesser extent embrace monotheism, as Gentiles. So as long as they adhere to the 7 Noachide Laws, they should get the benefits of that covenant. Anything else they believe is either playing the game or not playing the game, and doesn’t matter one way or another.
Christians are also unique in their belief of a personal God. And while this is not objectionable from the point of view that they are Gentiles, it could be seen as futile, much like what the pagans did, praying to their gods to interfere in their lives for their benefit, instead of doing it themselves.
So scientists can still believe in God, yet feel confident that what they do as scientists is uncorrupted by divine influences. If their science tells them that evolution took 4 billion years and proceeded in an orderly manner without interference, within the bounds of science, it did.
Your’re right. 4.5 BILLION years means nothing.
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