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Most immigrants in Georgia illegally, study finds
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 11/30/07 | BOB DART

Posted on 11/29/2007 7:31:54 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: GladesGuru

Fly around the south of Florida and look at all the air pollution from ALL the cane fields being burned.
Look at All the water back pumped into Lake O after it has collected pollutants from the cane and citrus fields.
This and worse happens on tens of thousands of acres and the E.P.A. turns their back on it.
If you or I did this on one acre they would be all over our butts.
Also you subsidize each pound of sugar grown with ten cents from the govt (you and I) to do so.
Great deal for the damn Fanjuls and the people get and the environment get the shaft.


61 posted on 12/01/2007 3:43:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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“Fly around the south of Florida and look at all the air pollution from ALL the cane fields being burned.”

Having logged over 500 hours in my Republic RC-3’s (never mind the hours in the other places), I feel I have probably seen as much of Florida as most people. Seeing should not always lead to bedlieving - most aprticularly when what is proposed for belief is essentially revisionist history.

Specifically, North America was subject to anthropogenic fire for at least 10,000 years. The Indigenous were diligent fire managers.

After that length of exposure to the fire management methods of the Indigenous, any plants unable to adapt to such management are gone. What is left is a fire adapted habitat.

The Everglades is perhaps the best adapted habitat to regular, anthropogenic fire.

The smoke may irritate enviro-socialists, but that is no reason to not burn the area.

As for Lake O becoming hyper-eutrophic, Joe - it always was. Indeed, it is often used as an example of what happens in a shallow lake where there is lots of sunlight and a long growing season.

Lakes pass through a number of well known stages. Lakes eventually become bogs, then meadows. Lake O is doing what it should be doing - becoming a bog, and then a meadow. A wet meadow, perhaps, but it will not remain a lake forever.

“Look at All the water back pumped into Lake O after it has collected pollutants from the cane and citrus fields.”

Meadow time, anyone?

“This and worse happens on tens of thousands of acres and the E.P.A. turns their back on it.”

Thank G*d for small favors, Joe. America does not need EPA, and even less does it need to allow them any more opportunities to grandstand at taxpayer expense.

If “the people” really are getting ‘the shaft’ it is because they voted in all those agencies. Remember the Declaration of Independence? It specifically objected to King George having “sent hither swarms of officers, to eat out our substance”.

I suggest that “the people” remember to read the three Founding Documents and then insist that their officials and bureaucrats make sure their actions are congruent with a strictly originalist perspective.

Anything they do which is not specifically allowed under the Constitution is, by definition, either extra-Constitutional or unConstitutional.

‘Da people’ done it to themselves, Joe.

FloriDUH voters have generally voted Democrap (really small ‘c’ communist) and they have no one to blame but themselves.


62 posted on 12/01/2007 4:47:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

I remember 40 years ago when the glades were still a swamp.
The weather was much better regulated by the fact the water everywhere regulated the heat better.
The Army corp drained the swamp and now it is little different then Ohio.
You never used to see freezes as far south as say West Palm Beach.
You are correct in that the floriduh voters have had chances to curtail big sugar and were foolish enough to vote against reigning them in.
Govt.s all over this country have claimed domain over all, much of which was not granted under the constitution, as you say.
Also several planes from the airpark I live at plan to fly to Everglades city for lunch today.
I fly an RV6A.
One last thing, the army corp misdirected the river of grass and that in itself has created more problems then anyone imagined. Now they are slowly trying to repair their damage.
GOOD luck.


63 posted on 12/02/2007 1:59:48 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher
Joe,

If you read this before you land at Everglades City, check for an eagle nest in the tall Australian pines near the middle of the runway.

That nest was built there after ParcMan cut the Australian Pines at Lost man’s River and other places in ENP.

It seems the lure of easy Federal money (exotic species removal in this case) meant that they went from single species management to the single minded pursuit of funds.

BAAAD ParcMan!

Happy landings.

64 posted on 12/02/2007 5:44:56 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

Back home and didn’t see that but I did have a most wonderful lunch at a place on the Barron next to the Rod and Gun club. Airport was very busy & was surprised but then I usually go on weekdays.
8 of us went and the weather was very nice.
Flew there at 5500 and home at 8500 and man it was chilly that high but puffs of clouds at 3000 and 5500.


65 posted on 12/02/2007 3:11:49 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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I always preferred to fly the SeaBees at 500 feet or less, often much less. On the other hand, if the SeaBee engine quit, landing in that thick boat hull would not really hurt it.

;-)


66 posted on 12/02/2007 4:18:26 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

I like to fly over to Sebring and on the way home I fly about 50 feet off the Kissimmee river. Actually below the berm along either side.
Slow to about 100mph and wag the wings at fishermen.
They either wave or flip me off.
Countless gators and just a few bridges and power lines to deal with.
Later this week my kid and I will fly up around Melbourne at about 10,000 feet and watch the shuttle launch.
Too cool.


67 posted on 12/03/2007 4:19:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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