Posted on 11/29/2007 7:11:00 PM PST by LowCountryJoe
‘So who loses in this situation?”
The machine shop next door loses because they can’t compete with the machine shops in China that pay the equivalent of 4 dollars a day and do NOT have to contend with the likes of OSHA. That’s tens of thousands of jobs lost here in the US.
“That said. Now let’s get that trade war going! :)
So your students, won’t have to read in books about things called “jobs”, which Americans used to have.”
Ohh there will be plenty of jobs, the majority of decently paying jobs will requires advanced degress to obtain, and if a high speed fiber optic line can allow data to be sent from India or China rather then Houston, and they work for a third of the cost, say “adios” and back to college with you.
Of course, if you are an American and do not have an advanced degree, your won’t so quite so well in Globalist America, unless of course you are a member of constituency that can pressure “Nanny” into hiring you for Unionized govt work.
Granted, a bit cynical, there is a grain of truth in it however.
Intensify means to perfect or make stronger.
Hey, can’t you shove those disabled kids in some sweatshop somewhere where they can be more productive?
Just curious.
Oh wait...brb....let me go out to the sweat shop next door and kick the little 11 year old ingrates around a bit more to stir up “productivity”.
It’s a race to the bottom.
What kind of life do you think Chinese who don't work in factories have?
Sounds good to me, in fact I’ve made a study of doing without those items that you listed (save a few) in order maximize investment capitol...
But even still, they did have actual “Wealth” the means of production, not “VCR’s”..
Yes I’m familar with the toasts: “To cooperation and mutual benefit”.
Fact is, you’re selling out.
Makes you money. Hurts America.
“intensfy”
As into concentrate, to put under stress through maximum effort?
Here I thought we were getting along so well.
OK. You drove me to this.
I really didn’t want to say this ... but:
THOSE WHO CAN’T DO. TEACH.
OK now what were we saying. :)
Yes, and they both worked darn hard to get it.
“Yeah, just like the you champion ‘necessary’ government intervention in creating disincentives for people to voluntarily exchange lawful goods and services with one another no matter their proximity to the United States. Limiting freedoms comes so naturally to your ilk.”
Yea, OSHA and DEP suck. But they are a necessary evil to stop people like you who would rather turn our country into a cesspool. Hey, maybe that will be more job security for you......you know... more kids with flippers....right?
Here’s a site that’s about 5 miles from my home.
http://www.epa.gov/region01/pr/1998/072498.html
http://www.epa.gov/region01/pr/1997/pr0312a.html
http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/land/site.tcl?epa_id=CTD072122062
funny thing is if I get 3 feet of snow in my yard.... the snow MELTS off the ground there!...even if it’s 10 degrees above zero.
I guess “you and your ilk” like things that way....hugh?
Sure, and the 3 engineers now employed - and earning more money than the 5 now-unemployed machinists because the factory in China can produce more products, keeping the 3 engineers in higher demand - shouldn’t get their jobs. Better to keep the lower-paid machinists.
So tell me, who lost their job so you can work? Unless you work the land with your hands - no oxen, no tractor, no plow - you’ve displaced at least one other job.
Lumberjack? How dare you use that chainsaw, doing the work that normally 10 men would do.
Mechanic? Why, you’ve put farriers, buggy makers, and hay farmers out of business!
Machinist? Bah, with your lathes and mills you’ve put dozens of craftsmen to the soupline.
Those tens of thousands of jobs in China would not exist if the US didn’t buy their output. And the reason we buy their output is that we have money. And we buy their output because we have more money on the whole.
So, here’s a question for you: I design consumer electronics - loudspeakers, in particular - for a living. I can get them entirely made in the US. Will you commit to buying your next pair of speakers from me, guaranteed to be made entirely in the US versus running down to Best Buy or Circuit City and picking up the $99 special? It’ll only cost you a few thousand dollars for a small pair of speakers...
As [in to] concentrate, to put under stress through maximum effort?
Yes.
“So tell me, who lost their job so you can work?”
No one. I’m self employed.
Think what you want to think. It’s called growing the economy of the US. How much do YOU add to the GDP of the country?
It’s called capitalism. Read about it some time - it actually works. It’s what this country was founded on.
Or we could keep with the collectivism and status quo that you seem to support. After all, it was so successful in the old Soviet economy - everyone has a job, even if it becomes obsolete...
Many of them are 18 or older. If I had a business and could put them to work making things that consumers wanted, I could probably make huge profits (which I'd profit share with them) by marketing the products and appealing to the consumer's emotional aspect to the operation. I see that emotional appeals are very fashionable and effective these days. I get a heavy dose of this reality every time a thread about trade gets broached. Now, what does your gut say: would these young people be willing to voluntarily take a job in order to improve their financial position and self-esteem?
Indeed, that is life, they did however work for enough money to actually build something with their efforts.
Don’t misunderstand, Trade is a good thing, shipping industries to China wholesale and replacing them with Wal Mart is not a good trade off at all, it will lead to economic populism for everyone.
“Soak the Rich with Taxes”
Yahh, that can pay for my health insurance that I lost..
Why can’t I get a job?
Because the “Rich” got soaked you dolt.
I don’t think either side sees what this is heading towards.
No. Be honest about what you are doing.
It is called growing the economy of the Peoples Republic of China.
If that’s what you choose to do, at least be honest about the results of your efforts.
So you created a brand new job, no one ever worked in your field before, so you’re not competing with others, you don’t force down the costs charged by those in your industry?
Do you never try to out-work your competition? Do you price your quotes higher than your competition so you don’t take work from them?
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