Posted on 11/28/2007 12:34:38 AM PST by Zakeet
“”LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MORMONS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MORMONS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MORMONS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MORMONS!!!””
LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MUSLIMS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MUSLIMS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MUSLIMS!!! LET’S JUSTIFY HATING MUSLIMS!!!
ROMNEY:
“”I asked Mr. Romney whether he would consider including qualified Americans of the Islamic faith in his cabinet as advisers on national security matters, given his position that “jihadism” is the principal foreign policy threat facing America today. He answered, “…based on the numbers of American Muslims [as a percentage] in our population, I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified. But of course, I would imagine that Muslims could serve at lower levels of my administration.””
All some people need are torches and pitchforks to look like the enlightened Christians of oh, the 1600's around here. That enlighted.
NO, I'm not Mormon. NO, I'm not voting for Romney.
Oh? You told me you were an ex-mormon.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1915559/posts?page=182#182
who made you in charge of what the scriptures mean?
It is you guys that have over 30,000 plus demomination of variations a theme being the “Lord’s doctrine” no wonder the Lord needed to restore His Church.
” That comment certainly merits the kind of all out ba!!s to the wall mudslinging crap I’ve read on this forum over the last three months against Mormons. “
That comment was a statement by a candidate for the President of the United States revealing his administrations actions that would apply to American citizens of a certain religion.
That hardly compares to us voters discussing primary candidates and their religion, or lack of it amongst ourselves.
In fact, his position may even be illegal.
“One more time, because you apparently missed this part:”
I didn’t miss it at all, you however missed that I drew a great big distinction between MAN altering scriptures on his own initiative and GOD revealing more scripture as is his right.
There is a whole lot of scripture that was written after Prov 30:5-6, there was a whole lot of scripture written after Deut 4:2, and the Gospel of John was written AFTER Revelation so NONE of those verses can be legitimately seen saying the canon is now closed. John also couldn’t mean that since the Bible didn’t even exist in those days, the book he is speaking of and telling men to not alter can only be the book of Revelation.
We believe the Book of Mormon etc. is the word of God, not the invention of man, so it is not an example of man adding or taking away from the scriptures but an example of God providing more scripture. Here is part of the BoM you might want to consider:
2Nephi 29
7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
“Every day, people are making eternal decisions based on false doctrines such as the Book of Mormon and the Pearl of Great Price. If they base their decisions on false doctrines, they will make poor decisions.”
The lives of faithful Mormons display the fruits of Christian living. Hardly a poor decision.
“Believing in Christ doesn’t make you a Christian any more than believing in McDonald’s makes you a hamburger.”
A believer in Christ is a Christian BY DEFINITION. That is what the word means, go look it up.
“You are also mistaken when you say that Jesus’ Spirit was begotten in the beginning. You asked about Scriptures to support that. Here you go:
“In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.” John 1:1-3”
Nothing there says that Christ’s spirit was not begotten in the beginning, in fact it confirms Christ was there in the beginning which is perfectly consistent with what I believe. Let me shed even more light on that passage for you:
“In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word was with God [the Father], and the Word was God [the Son]. He was in the beginning with God [the Father]. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.” John 1:1-3
If all you can do is sneer and cast stones and quote verses that don’t even back up your assertions, you are wasting time here.
LOL! So true, and so sad at the same time.
INCOMING!!!!!!
Our only refuge is by all of us being Spartacus....
I believe that the Catholics, Southern Baptists, Christian Orthodox and Methodists and Presbyterians as examples are all on that list, but it would be helpful if one of our Christian theological freepers made an ironclad, complete list.
For most Christian people with questions about mormonism, I think that, that list would answer them.
What does this mean to you?
“Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to his words, lest He reprove you, and you be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5-6
That’s not interpretation. That’s a quote. If you have a problem with God’s word, your problem is with Him, not me. It’s not my word, it’s His. Good luck arguing with Him. I know who’s going to lose.
Spin spin spin...... I think given the amount of Muslims, the fact is that it IS unlikely one would serve. So, what of it? And how does that justify your unChristianlike behavior?
As many have said, even Satan believes in Jesus Christ.
It’s the response to Christ that matters, not the mere acknowledgment of His existence or who He is.
Quit looking under the rug, cc. Thar jest ain't nothin' thar!!!
God didn’t reveal the Book of Mormon or the Pearl of Great Price. Joseph Smith, acting as an agent of Lucifer, did.
You are deceived. I feel sorry for you.
Ah, here is your problem Grig. It is the definition of WHO Christ is that is your problem. Mormon definition is a brother of satan, human sired by physical procreation between 'god' and Mary, who didn't die to fully take away our sin, who is not part of the triune (under orthodox christian terminology) Godhead (one God, three persons) as God the Son, member of a polytheistic (many Gods) universe. It is clear that the 'christ' of mormonism is not the same Christ of Christianity, therefore the claim that the belief in 'christ' by Mormons, absent acceptance of the Christian definition but using mormon definitions does not make one a 'Christian' any more than putting a mercedes-benz sticker on my ford makes it a mercedes.
It is a Christian thing, don’t let it bother you.
you confuse trinitarian doctrine with modalism in your ventriliquist and praying to self examples. There is nothing in trinitiarian theology that prohibits communication between the Persons of the Trinity. If you want to employ the ‘simple, direct interpretation of the scriptures’, you need to remember to encompass the whole scriptures, such as John 1:1, 10:30 and 17:11 & 21, just for starters
In my opinion, the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry do a pretty
decent job of this as you can see here.
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