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Ron Paul Courts 9-11 Troofers on Alex Jones Show...Again (Paging Ministry of Silly Explanations)
The Jawa Report ^ | November 21, 2007

Posted on 11/21/2007 9:31:52 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Schnucki
Was Ron Paul really on Alex Jones' show? Does Alex Jones promote the 911 "truth" movement?

Why don't you re-read the thread where I explained the reasons why Paul appeared on his show.

(A) Jones is a nationally syndicated radio show host, he's not some bug-eyed guy in his basement transmitting on a shortwave AM radio
(B) Paul goes on his show because he can discuss the issues freely without preening hosts interrupting him
(C) Paul doesn't agree with Jones' wacko conspiracy theories
(D) Some of Paul's issues are attractive to the populist Left and independents

121 posted on 11/22/2007 1:13:46 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: been_lurking
Has he told you this? Or is this just your personal assessment? How about a little truth in advertising.

How about going to his online library and reading it for yourself?

Here, immerse yourself

122 posted on 11/22/2007 1:14:59 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: 2CAVTrooper
If the shoe fits......

Dr. Paul enjoys support from military veterans too. Are they terrorists too?

When Beck smears Paul's supporters as "terrorists", he's smearing a wide cross-section of America and Americans themselves.

123 posted on 11/22/2007 1:17:03 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dr. Paul enjoys support from military veterans too. Are they terrorists too?

This rumor has been debunked many times. While there maybe a few veterans who support the white flag waving coward who wants all the sacrifices our brave serviceman have made to go for nothing, the majority would never want a coward commanding them.

When Beck smears Paul's supporters as "terrorists", he's smearing a wide cross-section of America and Americans themselves.

While I do not think cut and run's supporters are terrorists, I do feel they are terrorist supporters. If you are not against the terrorists you are for them, and cut and run's supporters are definitely not against them.
124 posted on 11/22/2007 1:35:57 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Any of the other GOP candidates raking in money from the grassroots?

I would hardly consider George Soros and his California gang of contributors grassroots. Look at the where cut and run is getting the majority of his money from, San Francisco, Chicago and Los Angeles.
125 posted on 11/22/2007 1:44:07 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's not like Paul can sit down and talk to Larry King or do a full interview on an MSM outlet. The major media have ignored Paul, which is why he's utilized the internet and going on Jones' show.

They also ignore me and I am just as relevant as he is. I bet I win just as many states as cut and run does, and I am not spending a dime to do it.
126 posted on 11/22/2007 1:50:57 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Iconoclast2
I've seen this "pools of molten steel" allegation in truther propaganda before. Where is the evidence of that? (Unequivocal photos, samples of congealed "molten steel," etc.?) I read a truther citation of eyewitnesses to "molten steel," and it turned out to be simply clumsy description by uneducated laymen of the fact that the steel framework was merely warped by heat-softening (as mentioned by other posters here), not converted into liquid. There is ample evidence that burning tank trucks can cause steel bridges to collapse into spaghetti-like configurations, without anything actually "melting."
127 posted on 11/22/2007 2:01:47 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Iconoclast2

I’ve seen those pictures purporting to show “molten metal” spraying from the side of the building. All I can see can readily be explained as blobs and dribbles of burning jet fuel or other flammables, plus shards of solid metal. Exactly what you would expect after a fuel-laden jumbo jet hit a skyscraper at high speed.


128 posted on 11/22/2007 2:07:09 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Iconoclast2
"beams with portions that are described as "vaporized".The key word is "described" (by truthers). Truthers take eyewitness descriptions of warped steel and "describe" it an molten also.

Anyway, lets assume that some steel was vaporized. Is there a possible explanation? If there was still electricity in parts of the tower, arcing from shearing of electric cables could possibly vaporize steel; I've seen a chunk of a knife blade instantly vaporized by shorting out a circuit inside a radio chassis.

129 posted on 11/22/2007 2:14:11 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Iconoclast2
"poorly informed"

Feel free to richly inform.


130 posted on 11/22/2007 2:37:25 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Geez EEE. Take a chill pill and reread what you posted in #121. Then tell us again if you believe this is why Paul does these screwy interviews, etc.

I think you have your cart before Paul’s horse. IMO, he does these things to push his supporters into defending him, and thus promote continued “Paulspamming”.

Paul’s campaign fits in very well with other scams these days....global warming, SCHIP’s is healthcare for poor kids, and Kevin Trudeau’s “miracle medical cures that Dr’s are hiding from the public”. Any kind of hyperbole is good cuz it gets attention and makes money for us scenarios.

And before some Paulbot makes the claim, NO, I don’t believe you when you say, or claim Paul said, that the moon is made of cheese.


131 posted on 11/22/2007 2:50:44 PM PST by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

There you go hiding behind “veterans” again.

FYI the vast MAJORITY of veterans HATE ron paul because of his PROVEN lack of support for the troops.

He has voted against military pay raises

He has voted against providing better healthcare to the troops

He has voted against providing the troops with equipment they need.

He has voted against funding the renovation of existing as well as new construction of family housing, barracks, post exchanges and commissaries.

He wants to kick veterans to the curb by eliminating the VA instead of returning it to it’s original purpose which was care of veterans who were medically discharged due to line of duty injury OR those who were wounded in combat. Before clinton f*cked up the VA, those veterans I just mentioned had priority over all others, but clinton opened it up to all veterans and made it a first come first serve basis.

paul has also voted against increasing educational, disability, and retirement benefits for veterans.

Veterans also hate ron paul because of his blame America first reasoning and his weak stand on the threats we face.

And what “wide cross section” of Americans are you talking about? Are you talking about the career college students living on daddy’s dime? Or are you talking about the paranoid schitzophrenics with the 32 personalities who line their apartments with tinfoil?


132 posted on 11/22/2007 4:00:18 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (A vote for ron paul in the primary IS a vote for hillary clinton in the general election)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“It’s not like Paul can sit down and talk to Larry King or do a full interview on an MSM outlet. The major media have ignored Paul, which is why he’s utilized the internet and going on Jones’ show.”

Uh huh, and with the major media “ignoring” him I guess that’s why he’s been on 60 Minutes, CNN, Today Show, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc.

He’s also been on The View, David Letterman, Jay Leno, etc.

Hell CNN interviewed the village idiot 3 times in one week.

So what was your whiney claim about the major media “ignoring” him again?


133 posted on 11/22/2007 4:17:37 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (A vote for ron paul in the primary IS a vote for hillary clinton in the general election)
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To: rideharddiefast

“This rumor has been debunked many times. While there maybe a few veterans who support the white flag waving coward who wants all the sacrifices our brave serviceman have made to go for nothing, the majority would never want a coward commanding them.”

Yep, the military had to endure the dark ages of the clinton regime, and I can safely say that they will not put up with another “Blue Falcon” in the White House.

For those of you on here who do not know, a “Blue Falcon” is a more umm civilized way of saying “Buddy F*cker”.


134 posted on 11/22/2007 4:39:30 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (A vote for ron paul in the primary IS a vote for hillary clinton in the general election)
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To: hellbender

“I’ve seen those pictures purporting to show “molten metal” spraying from the side of the building. All I can see can readily be explained as blobs and dribbles of burning jet fuel or other flammables, plus shards of solid metal. Exactly what you would expect after a fuel-laden jumbo jet hit a skyscraper at high speed.”

Yep, watch any video of a controlled burn that fire departments do for training, and you can see burning plastics and other materials turn into a molten like state much like in that video that the truthers cling to as “proof”.


135 posted on 11/22/2007 4:46:53 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (A vote for ron paul in the primary IS a vote for hillary clinton in the general election)
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To: OCCASparky; George W. Bush; SJackson
A simple statement which speaks volumes. Why won't L. Ron do the same? Answer: He **DOES** share their views, otherwise he would have disassociated himself from them and returned said contributions long ago.

FYI, the Paul for President campaign did in fact return the campaign contribution of one Alex Jones. He also did in fact repudiate the views of the '9/11 "troofers"'

He would have told Stormfront to take down the Ron Paul logo and threatened legal action were they to keep it up. He's done none of these things.

Yeah, and get his name associated with those assholes in a case that he might loose? You must think the man to be a moron, as is evident from your L. Ron comments.

It is quite obvious that you're hardly an objective observer. Frankly i doubt that any action taken by Ron Paul, or the Ron Paul for President campaign would be sufficient for you or your ilk.

Better the tact taken by Tom Tancredo, who laughed off the fact that he was endoursed by one David Duke.

Of course, some of you want to give publicity to an unknown nobody such as one Willis Carto, because Paul has not repudiated his endoursement of his campaign...when like most of America, Paul probably has no knowledge of Willis Carto or what he stands for. Until this came to light, i had no knowledge of Willis Carto.

Nice try, but as is evident from the campaign contributions, and Paul's numbers at rallys, America doesn't care what a bunch of unknown, racist assholes might or might not think.

136 posted on 11/22/2007 5:43:51 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

“FYI, the Paul for President campaign did in fact return the campaign contribution of one Alex Jones. He also did in fact repudiate the views of the ‘9/11 “troofers””

Ah yes the do as I say, not as I do routine.

Funny that he supposedly returns the campaign contribution to alex jones (possibly as a means to “distance” himself from the nut) but yet willingly and regularly appears on alex jones’ show.

Then he says that he’s all for opening another investigation into 9/11 in front of the “troofers”, but then says that there’s “no evidence” to support their claims in an interview.

In other words, the village idiot is trying to have it both ways just like he puts his name in for $400 million of pork funding just to vote against it and still get the money he requested.

“Yeah, and get his name associated with those assholes in a case that he might loose? You must think the man to be a moron, as is evident from your L. Ron comments”

First, he is a moron and that’s based on his simplistic 3rd grader views of the world we live in.

Second, his name is already associated with stormfront. Or did you forget that they have ron paul banner ads all over their site?

The fact is that he has yet to denounce the views and actions of stormfront and has yet to return any contributions generated from their site.


137 posted on 11/22/2007 6:18:07 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (A vote for ron paul in the primary IS a vote for hillary clinton in the general election)
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To: rideharddiefast
I would hardly consider George Soros and his California gang of contributors grassroots.

Stop promoting this lie it's just blowing up back in your face.

Look at the where cut and run is getting the majority of his money from, San Francisco, Chicago and Los Angeles.

I don't care if the money came from the Feminist Studies Dept. at the University of Berkeley. As long as the contributions are from American individuals, who cares?

138 posted on 11/22/2007 11:01:37 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: rideharddiefast
This rumor has been debunked many times. While there maybe a few veterans who support the white flag waving coward who wants all the sacrifices our brave serviceman have made to go for nothing, the majority would never want a coward commanding them.

I'm not talking about the military donations, I'm talking about military personnel and veterans supporting Paul in general. So you're saying that there's nobody in the military supporting him?

While I do not think cut and run's supporters are terrorists, I do feel they are terrorist supporters. If you are not against the terrorists you are for them, and cut and run's supporters are definitely not against them.

Questioning the feasibility of staying in the Middle East for generations isn't "supporting the terrorists."

139 posted on 11/22/2007 11:04:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Very nicely done :-)


140 posted on 11/22/2007 11:56:32 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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