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Millions watch video of Taser death (Vancouver, Canada)
The Toronto Star ^ | Nov 15, 2007 | Terri Theodore

Posted on 11/15/2007 5:39:32 PM PST by fanfan

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1 posted on 11/15/2007 5:39:33 PM PST by fanfan
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To: GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

2 posted on 11/15/2007 5:40:25 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

“Don’t taze me, arrrrgggghhhhhhh!”


3 posted on 11/15/2007 5:43:47 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren’t having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Watch the video
4 posted on 11/15/2007 5:47:24 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: traviskicks

Ping


5 posted on 11/15/2007 5:52:29 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I’m critical of tazer use, old women, wheelchair bound people, sleeping men. In this case I don’t really see fault. He was not acting rationally and looked ready to fight.


6 posted on 11/15/2007 5:59:03 PM PST by driftdiver
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For those of us who don’t care to watch someone die, what is the verdict?


7 posted on 11/15/2007 6:01:47 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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so what reason does the RCMP give for using the taser... nothing in the article tells me anything about what led up to the taser use...


8 posted on 11/15/2007 6:02:48 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: fanfan

Like they say when you have a hammer in your hand, everything looks like a nail.


10 posted on 11/15/2007 6:03:53 PM PST by olezip
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I don’t understand the vid. Why was the guy baracading himself?

The main thing that worries me is the fact that a taser killed someone. Obviously they are not harmless weapons. Maybe they should be taken away from LEOs. At least people will recognize a gun for what it is and react to it accordingly. A taser is ambiguous/uncertain and that makes it more dangerous.


11 posted on 11/15/2007 6:05:37 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

The man flew from Poland, and was held for 18 hours without an interpreter.
He was pretty stressed, so they killed him.


12 posted on 11/15/2007 6:06:37 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: latina4dubya

Well the guy’s acting very, very strange, speaks something that sounds like Russian to the cops, becomes agitated... at that point one of the three officers tazes him, and they descent to cuff him. I’m figuring he had a heart attack. Nothing in the video suggests anything was done outside of normal bounds (to my untrained in such matters eye).

In my mind... don’t act like a deranged person moving chairs through the automatic door (which is opening and closing on you) in an airport and you won’t get tazed. He was a very big man, a head above any of the officers. I’d say he constituted a viable threat.


13 posted on 11/15/2007 6:07:06 PM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: latina4dubya

Nothing in the video tells us why they tasered him either.


14 posted on 11/15/2007 6:07:44 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: mamelukesabre
I don’t understand the vid. Why was the guy baracading himself?

He didn't.

That's where he was being held.

15 posted on 11/15/2007 6:10:28 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
I really don't see why they tased him. He had been acting violently, but only toward inanimate objects. They had him surrounded with his back to the wall, and he didn't appear to be making a move toward anyone. It looked like his weight was back on his heels.

He did seem to be a bit out of his mind, possibly on drugs, but with no weapons in has hands and no aggressive moves toward officers I don't see why they needed to use the taser on him.

I don't blame the officers for his death. He was obviously not in his right mind, and he tried fighting the officers even after they had him on the ground. I don't see any reason to believe that the result would have been different had they tried to physically restrain him without the taser, nor did they have reason to believe that their actions would result in death or serious harm to the guy.

16 posted on 11/15/2007 6:10:44 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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17 posted on 11/15/2007 6:13:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

I agree; I can’t watch the video.


18 posted on 11/15/2007 6:13:18 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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Ok I watched a little before the police came. He appeared to be ill; sweating and really short of breath. Do you think he was having a heart attack or stroke?


19 posted on 11/15/2007 6:15:22 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: olezip
The man was calmed down twice by a woman. She did it thru the glass with hand gestures.

Airport Security was there, but afraid to do anything.

The RCMP made contact with the man after being told that he speaks Russian. They ordered him only in English. 24 seconds after the first contact by the RCMP they tazored him.

No training, no supervision, only macho

They shot a teenager while he was handcuffed and in a police station just a few moths ago.

The RCMP needs a shake-up from the top all the way down to the patrolmen.

20 posted on 11/15/2007 6:15:55 PM PST by Chief Engineer (Foo Fighter, 1506 Nix Nix)
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