Posted on 11/14/2007 8:32:37 AM PST by my3centseuro
“My child poses no threat to the vaccinated child, right?”
I think this policy is as much intended to protect children from their parents ignorance as anything else. I could be wrong.
This is going to be a burden on some of the county's poor and almost all the illegal aliens there, so I do not know where this is going.
Some believe vaccinations may cause some forms of autism, and other issues. Not everyone is convinced that vaccines are safe. Others opt out for religious reasons.
“Medical care has increased dramatically in the last few decades, at least since Helen Keller’s day. There are anti-biotics, anti-virals, and anti-inflammatories that could prevent a lot of the complications children used to suffer from.”
Well, if you are intellectually honest, you’d shun these safe, effective medicines for your children just as you’d shun safe, effective vaccines.
What the heck are you talking about?
Why should I shun modern medicine and how am I being intellectually dishonest?
Elaborate, please.
All the unvaccinated children would be required to be withdrawn from school. The school wants to prevent the loss of revenue that would follow.
“Why should I shun modern medicine and how am I being intellectually dishonest?”
Vaccines are part of the modern medicine of which you speak. If you shun them, but advocate other parts of modern medicine, you are not being intellectually honest.
The data on vaccines is overwhelmingly on the side of vaccination. There is no objective reason to shun them. By saying “I’ll just get my kids anti-virals if they get complications from not having gotten a course of vaccines” I submit you are being intellectually dishonest.
Most people avoid vaccines because of some perception of risk of complication that is so incredibly small, especially when compared with many of the diseases it protects against - and also, by the way the secondary treatments you mention by name.
The anti-vaccine crowd cannot be reasoned with. They are convinced they know better, when really they simply don’t know how ignorant they are.
Fair enough. You have the right to be stupid, and have your kids fall victim to your own stupidity. At some point though, don’t be surprised when society/government steps in to “encourage” vaccination.
“All the unvaccinated children would be required to be withdrawn from school. The school wants to prevent the loss of revenue that would follow.”
I find myself uncomfortable defending government...but in this case you have no more justification in saying that than I would by saying parents of unvaccinated kids want them to die or be crippled.
If you’re going to continue with the (false) accusations, show me the documentation where I state that I am opposed to vaccines.
“If you’re going to continue with the (false) accusations, show me the documentation where I state that I am opposed to vaccines.”
If I misunderstood that you were opposed, I apologize, but the point is the same and not intended to be specific to you, rather to all of the non-vaccinating crowd, to which you are not a member!
You mentioned anti-virals, etc. in response to a post about Hellen Keller-type complications that you would get from not vaccinating, hence my misinterpretation.
What the heck are you talking about?
The law in almost every state is that unvaccinated children must be withdrawn from school during an outbreak.
A school would naturally choose to have a single student out of school rather than many.
Why don’t you go shout your holier-than-thou screed at the parent of a child who has been killed or severely injured by a vaccine.
Once again, the vaccine zealots prove they don’t care about who gets hurt during their crusade.
My contention there was that many of the complications that arose from diseases like the measles were a result of secondary infections, or excessively high fever, all of which can be treated these days.
There are some vaccines that I think people are foolish not to get, polio and tetanus being the two big ones. I, myself, would never forego tetanus nor let my kids either. It’s just not worth it.
There are others I think it’s wise to get and some that I think is just over kill.
My kids all had chickenpox and they had pretty good cases of them; they were certainly sick enough and plastered head to toe with blisters and they all made it just fine. IMO, chicken pox is one of the more benign childhood diseases and it is more valuable to get it as a child that run the risk of catching it as an adult because of an ineffective vaccine. I’ve known people who have had shingles and it’s painful, but the stories I hear about adults who actually contract chickenpox as adults are horror stories.
The only point I am opposed to in the vaccine issue if the making it mandatory part. I in no way trust a bunch of politicians with no medical expertise to make health care decisions for me. If parents are to ignorant to make wise decisions about their own child’s health, what on earth would make a politician any better? Especially one with ties to pharmaceutical companies who stand to profit from promoting the company’s products by making them mandatory.
We don’t need Big Brother or Brave New World dictating how we should run our lives and making our decisions for us. I do not want to be regulated into oblivion in an attempt to protect me from myself. Who’s going to protect me from THEM?
“Why don’t you go shout your holier-than-thou screed at the parent of a child who has been killed or severely injured by a vaccine.”
You condemn many more kids to death, disfigurement and pain by blaming vaccines for every childhood or developmental ill under the sun, including bad parenting.
“Once again, the vaccine zealots prove they don’t care about who gets hurt during their crusade.”
It’s just a pin-prick at worst, for the vast overwhelming majority of kids. Your way potentially kills or cripples millions.
So who was it that cares more about “the children”? I think it’s me, but I may be biased.
Who’s is going to guarentee the protection of the vaccinated child from any adverse reaction.
“The law in almost every state is that unvaccinated children must be withdrawn from school during an outbreak.
A school would naturally choose to have a single student out of school rather than many.”
The government would kick them out of school - forcing the government not to pay the government for the average daily attendance of unvaccinated kids?
Your point made no sense. We can probably blame your inability to create a paranoid rant that stands up to the barest scrutiny on the vaccines you got as a child.
I care about MY kids. You don’t get to decide whether the severe brain damage my nephew has due to a DPT shot is reason enough for me to not vaccinate my children.
*I* do.
I will NOT be responsible for my child’s life effectively ending the way my nephew’s did. My nephew, who was extremely intelligent before his DPT shot, will never read, never graduate, never get married, and can’t even say “Mommy” at age 23. I will NEVER know the person he SHOULD have been.
You vaccine zealots would line up every child and pile on the vaccines, regardless of contraindications. It is nauseating.
“Who’s is going to guarentee the protection of the vaccinated child from any adverse reaction.”
Why would you expect such a guarantee? You should be thankful that they won’t get a crippling disease or worse.
Poor grammar and spelling, yet another danger of childhood vaccines.
“You don’t get to decide whether the severe brain damage my nephew has due to a DPT shot is reason enough for me to not vaccinate my children.”
I never said I do. Sorry about your nephew, curious how you know it was a DPT shot, though. Maybe he was a victim of a very unlikely complication, maybe not.
“You vaccine zealots would line up every child and pile on the vaccines, regardless of contraindications. It is nauseating.”
By your logic, I can simply disprove your contention that vaccines are dangerous in any way by pointing out MY kids had none, and got ALL their vaccinations.
You are willing to put your kids at risk of DPT. I am not.
I’m not saying you don’t care about your kids. I’m just saying you probably don’t care as much about them as those who vaccinate. You are unwilling to look beyond your obvious ignorance of overwhelming statistics and research out of some misplaced pride, or something.
But I will guard your right to be ignorant to the death!
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