Posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:44 PM PST by mdittmar
Another video
orbs over San Francisco
18 Nov 2007
OOOPS—INCLUDE THE LINK!
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/2130/uFO_orb_fleet_over_San_Francisco_Bay_11_18_07/
Another video
orbs over San Francisco
18 Nov 2007
More common ground.
USAP AND ADVANCED ENERGY AND PROPULSION SYSTEMS
The “crown jewels” of such USAPs are those connected to very advanced
energy and propulsion systems. In the 1940s and 1950s, a concerted effort was made to investigate a number of phenomena related to emerging sciences, including those associated with electromagnetism and electro-gravitic/magneto-gravitic technologies for their promising potential in creating energy and propulsion systems valuable to urgent defence projects.
During that era, particular interest was paid to what the public call UFOs (unidentified flying objects). It is important to note that the term UFO was only coined after covert programmes discovered that such objects were neither unidentified nor “flew” in any conventional sense of the word. Indeed, the majority of the information and culture associated with UFOs is disinformation designed to deflect serious scientific, media or mainstream governmental inquiry. People have been systematically deceived for half a century.
More common ground in this post. JL Naudin has been building Electrogravitics lifters and publishing experiments for over a decade now.
And yet, this area is widely laughed at as a “Pseudoscience”.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/elgthk.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm
Evidence of Extensive Antigravity Technology
The B-2 Advanced Technology Bomber
In 1993, LaViolette wrote a paper[25] discussing the B-2 bomber and speculating on its probable antigravity propulsion system, based on a solid understanding of electrogravitics,[26] the aircraft’s design and the materials used in its manufacture. It appears that the craft is using a sophisticated form of the antigravity principles first described by T. Brown. Support for this thesis came from the Aviation Week and Space Technology (March 9, 1992), which reported that the B-2 bomber electrostatically charges its leading edge and its exhaust stream. Their information had come from a small group of former black project research scientists and engineers suggesting the B-2 utilizes antigravity technology. This information was supported by Bob Oechsler, an ex-NASA mission specialist who had publicly made a similar claim in 1990. These findings support the contention that there have been major developments in the area of antigravity propulsion which are presently being applied in advanced aircraft.
LaViolette later states the obvious that “the commercial airline industry could dramatically benefit with this technology which would not only substantially increase the miles per gallon fuel efficiency of jet airliners, but would also permit high-speed flight that would dramatically cut flight time.”[27]
....
Antigravity Technology Demonstrations
Although T. Brown reported many of his findings nearly a half century ago, other experimenters have just recently begun to reproduce his work and report it in the open literature and on the WWWeb. For example, Davenport[38] published the results of his work in 1995 supporting the findings of T. Brown. More recently, Transdimensional Technologies[39] in the USA and J. Naudin[40] labs in France have posted on the WWWeb: diagrams, web videos, and data on their versions of antigravity “Lifters” based on an extension of Brown’s work. It is a sad commentary on this whole area of research to see that public science is requiring us to demonstrate principles that were demonstrated nearly fifty years ago.
There have also been a number of other demonstrations of “antigravity” phenomena by researchers throughout the world. This includes the work of Brazilian physics professor, Fran De Aquino, and such devices as: the Searl Electrogravity Disc, the Podkletnov Gravity Shield and Project Greenglow, the Zinsser Kineto-baric
People have been systematically deceived for half a century.
= = =
That’s for sure.
I certainly consider the above true or largely true.
Thx.
Following posted per my staning emailed permission from Whitley to post such hereon.
Please visit his site for regular fascinating updates on his ET experiences and seasoned perspective on the whole phenomena.
from:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/
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The Italian Lesson
Wednesday November 7th, 2007
Last week, Dennis Kucinich nearly ruined his presidential candidacy by admitting during the last Democratic debate that he had not only seen a UFO but been moved by the experience. Jimmy Carter then reiterated his often-stated comment that he does not know what he saw in 1969—that it was a moving light. The U.S. media reacted to Kucinich’s statement, intentionally elicited by Tim Russert, in the same way that the debate audience reacted—with chuckles. Kucinich courageously expanded on his previous comments at Drexel University, again eliciting laughter.
Kucinich was extraordinarily brave, but his admission not only of what he had seen but what he had felt—the visitors reaching to his mind—has marginalized him even further.
What a waste. Not only does our continuing rejection of this phenomenon mean that we are wasting the knowlege that must be available, it leaves us open and completely without resources, and that might not be such a good idea.
So, sixty years after the Roswell Incident, this is where we are. But is it where we should be? Most certainly not, and there is a surprising, left-field reason for this. It is that the unknown presence here is not all sweetness and uplift and saintly patience, and unless we apply our minds to the situation, we are liable to end up in some kind of trouble.
Entirely unremarked in the U.S. press, but covered in Europe, a report was leaked in Italy about a strange incident that took place in Sicily in 2004. To my knowledge, the only coverage of this leaked report in the U.S. was on Unknowncountry.com. (To read our story, and the earlier Unknowncountry reports,
(http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6516
In 2004, a series of fires occurred in Sicily that had no explanation. They involved things like unplugged power cords and other electrical appliances bursting into flames. Unreported literally anywhere else in the world except in local media, there were similar events taking place at the same time in India and Africa.
The Indian and African mysteries were not followed by any scientific investigation, but Italy did not ignore what was happening in the little Sicilian village of Canneto di Caronia. Instead, the Department of Civil Protection instituted a careful investigation. Three years and two million dollars later, the report concludes that the fires were caused by an electromagnetic field that reached between 12 and 15 gigawatts. Such electromagnetic phenomena do not occur in nature. They must be generated using large amounts of electrical energy and engineered devices. The conclusion was either that this was done by aliens or by an unknown power testing a secret weapon.
The reason that the suggestion of alien origin was made was that the fields were so large and there was no visible origin. They came out of nowhere, but electromagnetic fields do not propagate like radio waves, or light. They are steady-state fields that form around the object generating them. So where was the power source? It was not visible. But burned areas were found in a field near the town, and huge lights were reported in the area. So the conclusion is logical enough—something extremely strange was taking place, and it was obviously dangerous.
It is less clear what was happening in Africa, but the Indian fires almost certainly had the same cause. So either we must conclude that some great power such as the U.S., China or Russia, or perhaps even some private entity, who knows, was testing a truly arcane weapon, one that defies the laws of physics as we have observed them to work for hundreds of years, or, as the report suggests, this was accomplished by an unknown power using unknown means.
Back in 1989, I had direct experience with a persistent electromagnetic field, and I can describe the circumstances very exactly. It happened in May of 1989, the morning after an event I have described in detail elsewhere, which involved the placement of an object in the pina of my left ear by two people. Not aliens. People.
I saw both of them before they overpowered me by some unknown means and pressed their object into my ear. (It remains there to this day and you can see a video of the attempt to remove it in Unknowncountry.com’s subscriber area.)
The next morning, my wife said she hadn’t heard a thing. I saw that the alarm system was still armed, so I decided it must have been an odd dream. But when I went down to get in the car and take my usual trip to the local newsstand to get the paper, I was astonished to see that the garage door was wide open. As the alarm system was armed, this should have been impossible. Making a note to call the alarm man, I got in the car, only to find that it was crackling with static electricity. I jumped out again and called the alarm man immediately.
He came out and found the switch on the garage door untripped even though the magnetic field was broken because the magnet on the door had been pulled away as the door opened. But how could this be? When he tested the switch with his magnetometer, it was literally off the scale—surrounded by a powerful magnetic field that should not be there. Ditto the car.
As in the Sicilian town, here was a powerful magnetic field with no source. He replaced the switch, the field around the car gradually dissipated, and that afternoon I noticed the now-famous implant in my ear. After a failed surgery to remove it a few years later, wherein it physically moved away from the surgeon’s scalpel, I have ended up with the thing still there.
So, here is another instance of a free-standing magnetic field with no apparent source. And, you will notice, it appeared that entirely normal looking human beings were involved in its creation. There may have been somebody, or something, else with them, but the man and woman I saw looked perfectly ordinary.
Given that we cannot create magnetic fields that persist when their source is removed, how was it that a magnetic field was left behind at my house, and an immensely more powerful one somehow projected onto a town in Sicily and possibly in India?
It’s plain to see why the field was used in my case. They wanted to gain entry to the house and they came in through the garage door, using the field to freeze the alarm so it wouldn’t go off.
However, the field used in Sicily and the one probably used in India seem much more ominous. They created fires. People could have been killed. Homes destroyed. In other words, they were weapons, and particularly nefarious ones, designed to set the kind of small fires that, spread across a city, might cause an immense conflagration. Or used in forests. Or, perhaps used in a detailed attack, setting a single structure, or even a person, on fire, or perhaps a plane in flight, or a forest...or many forests.
It’s an ugly, dangerous weapon, and it is remarkable that, sixty years into the close encounter phenomenon, given this and so much else that reveals its ominous side, we are still laughing.
The close encounter phenomenon is complex. I spent eleven extraordinary years with the visitors in my life. I have gained immeasurably from my exposure to them. They were rough and it was hard at first, and it never got very easy, but I am a new man now, profoundly awakened.
This cannot be said of everybody who has had a close encounter, and the experience has such an extensive dark aspect that it seems to me that it must have multiple origins, and some of them must be sinister. Quite sinister.
So why did Tim Russert’s audience chuckle? I can imagine that, when first hearing of Cortez, some of Montezuma’s advisors probably had a supercilious chuckle of their own. They lived to eat that laughter—or rather, died eating it.
Recently, there have been more odd signs. There were the drones of last summer. Linda Howe collected too many eyewitness interviews for these things to have been a hoax. They are real, and the various websites that have sprung up to claim them as the work of this or that graphic artist, are false. I notice that none of the debunkers of the drones bother to mention the witnesses. However, the witness testimony, and the photographs given to Linda directly by some of these witnesses, are the only testimony that really matters.
Subsequent to the coming of the drones, there was a bizarre event in Peru when a meteor fall left a large number of people and animals sick. A NASA team went down and, with the help of the National Geographic, announced that the illness was due to arsenic in the soil. At first, the Peruvian scientist who promised to tell Linda details of the soil analysis said that this conclusion was premature and probably false. But now he won’t talk at all. The implication is clear: somebody shut him up.
More recently, one of Linda’s sources has reported a wave of cat mutilations, but each time he finds a story and sends her a link, the story disappears from the website of the newspaper reporting it.
As these stories have been around for years and this has never been done before, it’s also an ominous change.
It is stupid to try to conceal this. Public knowledge is essential, otherwise we remain defenseless.
In fact, if there is a hostile presence here, there is only one conclusion that can be drawn about the intransigent refusal of the U.S. government to admit the reality of this unknown: it has been trapped by the hostile presence and is working in league with it.
Carl Sagan has said that aliens, if they ever showed up, would be strange beyond imagining. From personal experience, I can assure you that he was entirely correct. What’s more, there is no doubt in my mind that their means of attack, if they ever decide to go in that direction, is going to be just as strange.
We urgently need to stop laughing and start doing some serious research into these anomalies. Otherwise, we stand to share the fate of the Aztecs, who confused the approach of a real invader with the return of a mythological messiah, or the Incas, who were stunned to helpless silence when Pissarro appeared on the scene.
The laughter has two sources. The first is fear. This is the same motive that drives people to believe that these things must be our own secret weapons. Governments also fear of loss of control. Religious people fear that their cherished beliefs will be revealed as fantasies, as happened to the Aztecs. The second is arrogance. Scientists and intellectuals hate the idea of superior minds usurping their place at the pinnacle of the culture.
So we do nothing—or no, we do a little. Tim Russert is willing to risk a man’s already hopeless candidacy in order to create a moment of levity.
The invaders came, and everybody laughed. For a while. The one thing we have in our favor is that our visitors appear to be in no hurry. So perhaps we still have time to mature beyond the Tim Russert level and start making a serious effort on our own behalf.
Or perhaps the phenomena works like a snake, sidling closer and closer, ever so slowly, creeping in the tall grass with nary a rustle of a single stalk…until—wham, we’re struck, we’re wrapped in the coils, and the next thing we know, we are part of the memory of this vast, strange and concealing universe, swallowed by the mystery.
Here’s a very fascinating article at
Linda Moulton Howe’s EARTHFILES.COM
about Rumsfield and staff’s outrage at the more outrageous
LOSS, MISAPPROPRIATION, BLACK OPS USE OF; COOKED BOOKS HIDING, LOSING
2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS in the defense dept.
That’s TRILLION WITH A “T.”
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1346&category=Environment
One knowledgeable source asserts it is routinely spent on the black ops super secret manned space program.
. . . a “plane” that can go at mach 14 etc.
Some interesting excerpts from that last link:
UFOs, Both E. T. and Manmade:
“Unfunded Opportunities”
John would ask Ben Rich questions about classified aircraft and Ben never released any specific classified answers, but he did provide John Andrews some interesting points. One of these points was a question that John posed to Ben Rich. He was asking Ben if he was a believer in manmade UFOs and extraterrestrial UFOs. We have Ben’s response – I’m looking at this document. It’s dated July 21, 1986. It’s on official Lockheed letterhead from Ben Rich.
Ben Rich and the F-117A Nighthawk. Benjamin Robert Rich (June 18, 1925 – January 5, 1995)
was the second director of Lockheed’s Skunk Works from 1975 to 1991, succeeding its founder,
Kelly Johnson. Regarded as the “father of stealth,” Ben Rich was responsible for leading the
development of the F-117, the first production stealth aircraft. He also worked on the F-104,
U-2, SR-71, A-12, and F-22 among others, many of which are still classified.
‘July 21, 1986
Dear John:
Yes, I’m a believer in BOTH categories. I feel everything is possible. Many of our manmade UFOs were unfunded opportunities.
In both categories, there are a lot of geeks and charlatans. Be cautious.’
So, the question is: what exactly did Ben Rich mean when he talked about ‘unfunded opportunities’? Was he speaking of classified programs within the Skunk Works that did not get proper funding? Or, was he speaking of hand-me-downs that we received from others?
Technology “To Take E. T. Home”
ISN’T IT BEN RICH WHO SPOKE ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO AT A MEETING IN CALIFORNIA AND SAID WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY ‘TO TAKE E. T. HOME’?
That’s exactly correct, Linda. I have that quote right here. Mr. Ben Rich passed away in 1995 and before he passed away, he dropped a number of bombshells. This took place at Wright-Patterson AFB back in 1993. He gave a slide presentation there and also at the UCLA School of Engineering Alumni speech – he gave on March 23, 1993. At the very end of his presentation, in both of these venues, he completed his slides with the following quote: ‘The U. S. Air Force has just given us a contract to take E. T. back home.’
He also mentioned, ‘We also know how to travel to the stars.’ And he also mentioned at the UCLA speech, ‘It is time to end all secrecy on this as it no longer poses a national security threat and to make the technology available for use in the private sector.’ That’s exactly what we’re talking about here.
He was telling us about a whole level of aircraft, of spacecraft, of advanced propulsion systems that are so far advanced. He even mentioned technologies that are 50 years beyond even what we could possibly dream of. Now, when you hear that coming from the Director of the Skunk Works, I think it is important to really take that to heart. This gentleman knew something and he was trying to tell us something. And I think this is the space program that none of us have a clue about in the civilian sector. This is what Ben Rich was trying to tell us about.
THAT THERE IS A SECOND, SECRET PARALLEL SPACE PROGRAM TO NASA.
Absolutely – 100%.
“Lifting Body” Demonstrated At Norton AFB
on November 12, 1988
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DETAILS TO FILL IN ABOUT WHO THE ASTRONAUTS COULD BE AND WHAT MIGHT BE THE CURRENT MOST CUTTING EDGE AERIAL CRAFT WE MIGHT HAVE IN SECRET?
I do not know who the secret astronaut corps would be, but I do have at least an idea of some of the craft they might fly. I will reference an event that took place on November 12, 1988 – this is two days after the F-117A was declassified and put into the public domain. This was an exhibit to garner support for black budget aerospace programs. We know that California Congressman George Brown, Jr., was present. We also know that U. S. Senator Alan Cranston was present and a number of high-level military brass was also present at this classified exhibit. This was not open to the general public.
Now, one aerospace engineer who did come forward and provide details – he was actually at this exhibit. He mentioned that there were a number of aircraft in this hangar. There were two semi-classified hovercraft that have now since gone into the commercial industry. He also described a flattened football, diamond-shaped aircraft.
Reference: Aviation Week & Space Technology December 24, 1990, has a very good drawing, a schematic of what this particular aircraft looked like. Roughly it was 100 feet in length and approximately 65 feet wide – completely composed of heat-ablative thermo-resistance space shuttle tiles - the same tiles that you would see on the space shuttle.
[ Editor’s Note: Thermal Protection System (TPS) reinforced carbon-carbon that can withstand up to 3,000 degrees F. on reentry into Earth’s atmosphere.]
On control surfaces along the leading and trailing edges of the aircraft; tricycle landing gear with wire mesh wheels; and this was a completely unmanned aircraft. This was one of the aircraft that was at the 1988 exhibit.
This was an unmanned aerial vehicle that had 121 launch tubes at the lower portion of the fuselage. They had the capability of launching a 1/10th megaton warhead at less than 1/10th of a second. There were 18 of these aircraft built during the Reagan Administration.
THAT MEANS THE NUCLEAR MISSILES COULD BE LAUNCHED FROM HIGH IN OUR ATMOSPHERE WITHOUT HAVING PILOTS INSIDE THOSE AIRPLANES?
That’s exactly correct. They could be to the Soviet Union in less than three hours and then be back home and the Soviet Union would not even know what was going on because these things are extremely stealthy and could not be intercepted via missiles or aircraft.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THESE AIRCRAFT ARE TODAY?
No one knows, but I can only guess that some of them are at a remote facility at Eglin AFB, Florida. They could also be at an underground facility called ‘Dyson’s Dock’ at the remote test site in Nevada, also known as ‘Area 51.’ And then also the third option is Edwards North Base, Mohave, California.
Pinging the list....
Technology “To Take E. T. Home”
ISN’T IT BEN RICH WHO SPOKE ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO AT A MEETING IN CALIFORNIA AND SAID WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY ‘TO TAKE E. T. HOME’?
That’s exactly correct, Linda. I have that quote right here. Mr. Ben Rich passed away in 1995 and before he passed away, he dropped a number of bombshells. This took place at Wright-Patterson AFB back in 1993. He gave a slide presentation there and also at the UCLA School of Engineering Alumni speech – he gave on March 23, 1993. At the very end of his presentation, in both of these venues, he completed his slides with the following quote: ‘The U. S. Air Force has just given us a contract to take E. T. back home.’
He also mentioned, ‘We also know how to travel to the stars.’ And he also mentioned at the UCLA speech, ‘It is time to end all secrecy on this as it no longer poses a national security threat and to make the technology available for use in the private sector.’ That’s exactly what we’re talking about here.
He was telling us about a whole level of aircraft, of spacecraft, of advanced propulsion systems that are so far advanced. He even mentioned technologies that are 50 years beyond even what we could possibly dream of. Now, when you hear that coming from the Director of the Skunk Works, I think it is important to really take that to heart. This gentleman knew something and he was trying to tell us something. And I think this is the space program that none of us have a clue about in the civilian sector. This is what Ben Rich was trying to tell us about.
YUP.
Thx.
May be of interest to you . . . about a force opposing gravity . . .
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread317985/pg1
I went to the link you posted, the NASA moon pic and then I asked, What was that? The speculation is that it’s a protruding- and then retracting-smokestack, complete with a brief emission of black smoke. Interesting.
As in, structures on the back side of the moon; I watched it, it’s fascinating. Thx QX.
Thanks Q... that sounds familiar... if it hasn’t been posted, I may use that, or find a similar one that’s got a bit more detail. Thanks again.
Sure. Thanks.
All amazing...
Thanks!
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