Even ascendant Dems wary of 'liberal' label

Politico ^ | 11/12/07 | David P. Kuhn

[theDentist]

Are these the ones with the 40 y.o. porky nerdy guy and the thin always dressed in black kid who can’t seem to grow a mustache? every time one comes on, i remind myself not to buy an Apple product

[DGHoodini]

Someone calls themselves “Progressive”, I don’t call them a Liberal...I call them what they are: A “Back Door” Communist.

[WashingtonSource]

What this survey shows is that a true conservative has the best chance of winning. RINOs need not apply.

[Irish Queen]

liberal = progressive = social progressive = revisionist = collectivist = socialist = social elitist = secular humanist freethinker = social revolutionary = proletarian = communist = radical = extremist = partisan = sycophant = “sheeple” = Democrat = liberal

(Around and around it goes and where it stops nobody knows.)

[Irish Queen]

liberal = progressive = social progressive = revisionist = collectivist = socialist = social elitist = secular humanist = freethinker = social revolutionary = proletarian = communist = radical = extremist = partisan = sycophant = “sheeple” = Democrat = liberal

(Around and around it goes and where it stops nobody knows.)

[Condor51]

Hillary Rodham Clinton was asked this summer if she would describe herself as a “liberal.” “I prefer the word ‘progressive,’” she said. It has a “real American meaning.” Then she expanded the term to “modern progressive,” and, finally, clarified that she was a “modern American progressive....

Excellent move Hill.

Go ahead with the "progressive" label and add any qualifiers to it you wish. However, don't forget - smartest woman in the world - that for those in the know, "Progressives" are and forever will be linked with and tied at the hip to COMMUNISTS and the CPUSA.

Progressive/Communists goes back much further than Henry Wallace and the 1948 Election sweets where the CPUSA endorsed him -- and you know it, ms 'smartest woman'. So I'm glad you're coming out of the closet and finally outing yourself as a COMMUNIST.

Now how about that other 'thing' in your closet everyone is wondering about???

The anti war (pro USSR) Platform of the 1948 Progressive (commie) Party is almost IDENTICAL to the trip spewed by today's 'Surrendercrats' regarding the Iraq War and the WOT.

[tcrlaf]

“Progressive” polls with focuas groups much better than “Liberal” does...

You’ll take note of the “Pro-Con” commercials being run by The Center For American Progress (Clinton-Soros) to attempt to push this “Redesignation”.

[Noumenon]

“But they don’t adopt progressive in a serious way because they don’t know how to say what progressive means.”

It's not that they don't know how - it's that they don't dare.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

Norman Thomas, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union

The aims, the goals of the Gramscian totalitarian Left have never changed. Those aims are merely re-packaged in innocuous and diseingenuous language. If the American public truly understood what those aims are, if the American public had any sense of the historical outcomes such aims and ideas - mass murder, poverty and misery - it would be the ideology of the Left, not Christianity that would be driven form the public square.

Personally, I favor public hanging for anyone who wants to 'take things from me' for the 'common good.' But that's just me.

[Noumenon]

Actually, history is quite clear about where it stops, once these ‘progressives’ acquire the levers of power: mass murder, poverty and misery.

That’s why ‘progressives’ and their ilk are absolutely unfit to live in a free society.

[Cicero]

Actually, “liberal” has a respectable history, compared to “progresssive.” It originally meant those who believe in freedom, whereas “progressive” means those who believe in Utopian or Marxist ideas of progress.

Historically, Progressive is way, way to the left of Liberal. It does, in fact, fit hillary very well, because she is an old-line Marxist of the worst kind.

The reason why people may not flinch at the word “progressive” the way they do at “liberal” is that the word hasn’t been much used since the days of the Hitler-Stalin pact, because by that time it had become a dirty word.

Several hundred million people died over the course of the twentieth century, due to the evil programs of progressives.

[ASA Vet]

At a recent Republican debate, Rudy Giuliani referred to himself as a “conservative”

There are lies and there are damn lies.

Seems RINO Rudy also won't admit to being a liberal.
He in fact tells a bigger whopper than Comrade Hillarys labeling of herself as "progressive."
The CommieRAT MSM, which tryed to get away with labeling Rino Rudy as "moderate," doesn't even match RinoRudy in the liar competition.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Let’s call them what they are - totalitarians or fascists.

[dsutah]

It seems to me that there is disagreement among people that call themselves conservative, as to what is or is not a ‘true conservative! How do you really define a ‘real or true’ conservative Republ., as opposed to a RINO?

For example, so many people on this forum anymore call themselves ‘real conservatives’, and verbally jump all over other conservatives because they don’t believe as they themselves do! Would you, or could you, define what a ‘true’ conservative’ is?(in general) How about the difference between a ‘conservative’ Republican, and a RINO?

I know that make me seem to be clueless, but I’m curious as to what some ‘real’ conservatives and/or ‘real’ conservative Republicans define themselves as opposed to a RINO! End of rant.