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I have all of Ron Paul's old newsletters and will be posting all of this drivel--all of it documented and published in Ron Paul's name at his expense.
1 posted on 11/09/2007 11:27:48 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

RON PAUL IS REVOLTING !

Mrs. Esopman


202 posted on 11/10/2007 7:27:16 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere (and Their Most Intelligent Designer))
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I have to admit, I don't really understand this Ron Paul phenom. Can someone point out some resources so I can learn about it?

All I know is that things I hear that he says and also what his followers do just doesn't feel right. It is sorta like figuring out who all the anarchists are and how they organize...under the radar but manifesting great energy.

Thanks
205 posted on 11/10/2007 9:25:37 AM PST by BillCompton
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I was disturbed enough by the allegations to go search out info on this story.

THESE EVENTS DID HAPPEN AS DESCRIBED, on Feb. 24, 1991, under Maj. Gen. Thomas G. Rhame, the Big Red One, First Infantry (Mechanized)

Ron Paul was running a very small newsletter before the advent of the internet to level the playing field regarding the dissemination of information. At the time he wrote the blurb about the bulldozing, he was repeating a widely known series of incidents that occurred with the 1ID spearheading the gulf war invasion. To: LSUfan

Frontline Transcript on the trench bulldozing incidents.

NARRATOR: The American 1st Infantry Division had the job of storming the trenches to clear a path for the tanks. To avoid hand-to-hand fighting, they planned to bury the Iraqi defenders alive.

Col. LON MAGGART, 1st Infantry Division: A thought occurred to me, we could actually use these plows to fill in the trenches. In fact, I had tested it myself. I got down in the ditch myself and had two tanks plow towards me, just to see what it did.

I learned several things and one is I learned that it happens very quickly, so the defender has a choice to make, but he has to make it very quickly. He can either give up and hop out of the trench, he can try to run down the trench and get away, but he better do those quickly because these things move at amazing speed down there.

NARRATOR: Along the Iraqi border ran a sand barrier, a berm. Beyond that lay five miles of minefields and then the Iraqi trenches.

1st U.S. SOLDIER: We got the first one, first berm in a minute.

2nd U.S. SOLDIER: That's real good. The second one's a tougher one.

NARRATOR: Armored bulldozers and tanks fitted with plows broke through the berm and moved on to the trenches. Eighteen-year-old Joe Queen drove one of the lead bulldozers.

JOE QUEEN: What we did is we just took the dirt that the Iraqi soldiers had dug out_ we just pushed that dirt right back into the trench. You could just look at the man's eyes and see fear. You know, you see him scared. You know, you're looking at a man's_ the whites of his eyes as you're going through in the trench with this bulldozer, covering in the trench.

And they were firing at the bulldozer and the first bullet that hit the blade, that made me know then, "Hey, look. This is for real. There's no game. Those are real bullets and a bullet would kill you."

NARRATOR: After the war, press accounts reported thousands of Iraqis were buried. Most independent analysts estimate it was just hundreds. The Army says it was about 150.

JOE QUEEN: You don't think about, "Hey, what about this guy? What about that guy?" He had a chance to get out. He had every opportunity to get out and he took the way to die for his country, just like any American would.

NARRATOR: By the end of the ground war's first day, all of Schwarzkopf's horses were on the attack.

Gen. NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF: I went to bed that night very satisfied with the fact that the campaign plan was unfolding and that_ that it looked like we were going to have a terrific success and_ you know, and accomplish everything we wanted to accomplish.

NARRATOR: In Washington that Sunday, President Bush had received little news. If there were heavy U.S. casualties, it could finish him politically and could even stop the war.

RICHARD CHENEY, Secretary of Defense: I got briefed just before I went into the church. The president was right ahead of me. I passed him a note that said, "Mr. President, things are going very well." We all went back to the White House. I got out a map from Time magazine, just sort of showing exactly what was happening, and I was able to tell him there that things were going extraordinarily well.

We had assumed that the toughest part of the ground war, in terms of casualties, would have been the early hours of that conflict and, in fact, what we were finding was that the air war had been enormously effective and decimated the Iraqi forces and that they, in fact, were collapsing in front of us.

NARRATOR: But in Riyadh the allied commander was having a bad morning.

http://www.1stid.org/history/index.cfm

On the morning of Feb. 24, 1991, under Maj. Gen. Thomas G. Rhame, the Big Red One spearheaded the armored attack into Iraq, by creating the all-important breach in Iraqi defenses that enabled VII Corps units to smash into Iraq. The Division broke through the enemy defensive lines, decimated the Iraqi 26th Inf. Div. by and took over 2,500 prisoners. After the breachhead was secured, the British 1st Armored Division was allowed to advance and pass through the Big Red One. This kept up the momentum of the coalition force's attack. The Division then followed and drove to the east deep into enemy territory.

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Further info: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/appendix/death.html

How many Iraqis died?

Independent analysts generally agree the Iraqi death toll was well below initial post-war estimates. In the immediate aftermath of the war, these estimates ranged as high as 100,000 Iraqi troops killed and 300,000 wounded.

According to "Gulf War Air Power Survey" by Thomas A. Keaney and Eliot A. Cohen, (a report commissioned by the U.S. Air Force; 1993-ISBN 0-16-041950-6), there were an estimated 10-12,000 Iraqi combat deaths in the air campaign and as many as 10,000 casualties in the ground war. This analysis is based on enemy prisoner of war reports.

The Iraqi government says 2,300 civilians died during the air campaign.

One infamous incident during the war highlighted the question of large-scale Iraqi combat deaths. This was the `bulldozer assault' in which two brigades from the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division (Mechanized)--The Big Red One--used plows mounted on tanks and combat earthmovers to bury Iraqi soldiers defending the fortified "Saddam Line."

While approximately 2,000 of the troops surrendered, escaping burial, one newspaper story reported that the U.S. commanders estimated thousands of Iraqi soldiers had been buried alive during the two-day assault February 24-25, 1991.

However, like all other troop estimates made during the war, the estimated 8,000 Iraqi defenders was probably greatly inflated. While one commander thought the numbers might have been in the thousands, another reported his brigade buried between 80 and 250 Iraqis. After the war, the Iraqi government found 44 bodies.


208 posted on 11/12/2007 5:15:48 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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>>>>>Not a single American was hurt

They would have been happier if some had been hurt or died.


213 posted on 11/12/2007 5:30:54 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: LSUfan

Ron Paul can kiss my rusty ass.


252 posted on 11/12/2007 10:06:49 AM PST by sport
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To: LSUfan
Enough of Ron Paul. Elect Chris Peden to Congress!
260 posted on 11/12/2007 6:39:11 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: LSUfan

Well, how about a link to the entire article so we can see its context?


265 posted on 11/13/2007 1:12:04 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Note: this topic is from 11/09/2007.
267 posted on 05/02/2010 8:23:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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The Elite Republican plan of action for Ron Paul

Convince everyone Ron Paul is a crazy, racist, senile old man. All his supporters are dirty hippies that are all on drugs and are anti-Semite wackos.

Get the word out that voters in Iowa should vote for anyone they want, EXCEPT FOR Ron Paul. If they vote for him, the state will be a disgrace and the rest of America will hate Iowa forever.

If he wins, it will not even matter! The Republican leaders will ignore him and his crazy anti-American supporters and focus on the second and third place candidates.

Make sure that all media reporting includes the following: "There is no way Ron Paul will be the nominee. Remember you will be informed at the proper time who to support. (Remember McCain was broke around the NH primary and that didn't matter, it was his turn. You all did well supporting the Maverick.)

Drugs, never once forget Drugs, Ron Paul wants your children to use them! He want to flood the streets with released addicts and pushers along with TONS of cocaine. He really does love Heroin.

Remember, Your vote will only matter when you vote for who we choose, we know what is best for you! Relax, the Republicans have it all under control!

271 posted on 12/23/2011 8:02:57 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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