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Once More, With Feeling: Leave Pot Smokers Alone!
Reason Online ^ | November 8, 2007 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 11/09/2007 8:39:20 AM PST by SubGeniusX

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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

But what about he chilruns????

I have no idea what you or I are talking about, I just felt like saying that.


61 posted on 11/09/2007 7:11:25 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

There’s something about swallowing a pill that isn’t exactly fun when you’re extremely nauseaous.

And the ‘it’s for the children’ mantra is the the rallying cry of those who want to keep pot legal for any purpose.


62 posted on 11/09/2007 7:22:34 PM PST by Nate505
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To: Nate505

That would be ‘illegal.’


63 posted on 11/09/2007 8:03:19 PM PST by Nate505
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To: clamper1797

Those black JAZZ musicians. Get it right, if you please!!!

Howdy, good sir.


64 posted on 11/09/2007 9:21:58 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: r9etb

Dear smokehaters:

They don’t smoke pot in bars while you are swilling beer and gorging on chicken wings. What is the objection now?


65 posted on 11/09/2007 9:23:59 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Raycpa

You have to love Cheech and Chong. Tell me you don’t.


66 posted on 11/09/2007 9:25:33 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Yeah, leave 'em alone. Someone's gotta work at Mickey D's.

In Denver that would be illegal aliens.

67 posted on 11/09/2007 9:31:53 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
They already have synthetic/artificial ingredients created from marijuana extract for those who need it for nausea. But it doesn’t get you high, so it isn’t well-liked.

It doesn't work well. Cannabis has about 60 phytochemicals in it the synthetic cannabinol is only one of the. It is also hard to swallow a pill when you are heaving up everything you eat. Funny thing about nausea.

68 posted on 11/09/2007 9:35:29 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: SubGeniusX

Dave’s not here man....


69 posted on 11/09/2007 9:39:42 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: KoRn

I feel like Kiff from Futurama, “ uuhhfff”

Tobacoo is not an mind altering substance that impairs
judgement.

Ok, you can go back to your bong now.


70 posted on 11/09/2007 9:44:14 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: fanfan

Yawn.

THE EFFECTS OF CANNABIS ON PULMONARY STRUCTURE, FUNCTION AND SYMPTOMS

Sarah Aldington 1, Mathew Williams 1, Mike Nowitz 2, Mark Weatherall 3, Alison Pritchard 1, Amanda McNaughton 1, Geoffrey Robinson 1 and Richard Beasley 1*
1 Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, New Zealand
2 Pacific Radiology, Wellington, New Zealand
3 Wellington School of Medicine & Health Sciences, New Zealand


71 posted on 11/09/2007 9:58:06 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: lormand
I have, but what good is smoking pot if the sword of Islam is at your throat?

It is?!? OMG, everybody hide under the bed. No wait, go shopping..hold that don't go shopping!! I just don't know what to do. The government is sending confusing messages (as all bureaucracies are wont to do)

Tell me, exactly how is this 'sword of Islam' going to take over these United States? Seriously, I would like to know. I keep hearing about this 'threat' but have never explained how a bunch of desert dwellers who can't even agree on their own god are going to take over a population of 300 million (a good number of which are armed). As they have no standing army, no airforce to speak of, no military equipment (and no way to get it over here) exactly how is this going to happen?

On second thought you're right. Better the government take all my freedoms to protect me from the Islams taking my freedom...hey wait a minute....lot of faith you have in your fellow citizenry to protect their property.

72 posted on 11/09/2007 9:59:13 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: G Larry
Why does this culture insist that one more poison should be tollerated or embraced as though there’s no corrosive effect on the community at large?

I can kind of see your point but I also see this as a slippery slope as well. Its like Hillary saying I am going to take from you for the common good. One person's common good is not someone else's common good.

If someone is doing something that only harm's themselves, to the greatest extent it should be allowed or it just breeds conflict, corruption, black markets, etc. which also have corrosive effects on society.

This country was founded on rugged individualism and freedom, and not even sure what "society" or "community" really mean except as long as I am not hurting you, I can do what I want.

We are Americans, we do not have leaders, we have public servants. Americans do not need leaders.

My Grandpa, who was from a wiser generation than ours, always believe in live and let live. We are the "there ought to be a law generation" and we put people in jail because they annoy us.

It pretends increasing the amount of intoxicants in society and encouraging its use is net neutral to productivity, motivation, learning, and traffic safety.

Society has no right to demand I be motivated, learned or productive. It is none of their business what I do as long as I do not harm them or take welfare. I find it a stretch to say someone who sits in their house and smokes pot victimizes someone else. That whole victim mentality is really a power play.
73 posted on 11/10/2007 1:25:49 AM PST by microgood
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To: Para-Ord.45

“LOL Just hilarious!

As definitive as the studies I`ve posted.”

You posted absolutely no studies that definitively linked marijuana smoking to lung cancer. I should say that I’d like to see if the results are repeatable, but unless the scientist who did the study I linked completely faked the results (wildly unlikely) it is in fact definitive. Do you understand the term “statistically certain”?

“Absolutely hilarious to see the wildest, craziest proponents of medicinal marijauna use are regular potheads and stoners who hit their bongs every day.”

My, what wild projection. I might just as well say that you’re a repressed latent homosexual who’s never been laid, and simply wants to rain on other folks freedoms. However, that would be an ad hominem attack like yours, which by the way is commonly regarded as conceding an argument in debate circles. ;-)

Some of us simply feel that the price paid for marijuana enforcement is far too high for the supposed benefit to society.

However, let’s see if you’re intellectually honest - do you support the complete prohibition of tobacco and alcohol? At least then you’d be consistent.


74 posted on 11/10/2007 4:46:29 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Tobacoo is not an mind altering substance that impairs
judgement.”

However, it is one with a multitude of severe health effects, and it’s far more addictive than cannabis. In fact, it’s more addictive than heroin.

On the other hand, alcohol clearly affects judgment far more than cannabis, also causes a range of severe health effects, and is responsible for a large percentage of severe vehicle collisions.

So, I repeat my question from another post - do you support prohibition of tobacco and alcohol?

“Ok, you can go back to your bong now.”

Ah, the ad hominem...the last refuge of the intellectually under equipped.


75 posted on 11/10/2007 5:07:51 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: lormand

“I have, but what good is smoking pot if the sword of Islam is at your throat?”

Might be good for some relaxation after a long day at the rifle range. Alcohol can cause the shakes. ;-)


76 posted on 11/10/2007 5:12:49 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: microgood

“Society has no right to demand I be motivated, learned or productive. It is none of their business what I do as long as I do not harm them or take welfare. I find it a stretch to say someone who sits in their house and smokes pot victimizes someone else.”

Society DOES have a right to say that we’re not going to contribute to the undermining of our culture.
My brother thought as you do and was in line to be VP in a national corporation. He’s now out of work, blown 3 attempts at rehab, blown his marriage, and is living in roach motel. ‘a little smoke, a little toot, fun with friends....who’s it hurt?’


77 posted on 11/10/2007 7:22:53 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

” more addictive than heroin”

Exagerration trumps ad hominen.


78 posted on 11/10/2007 9:07:55 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: PreciousLiberty

Last time,

Tobacoo is not an mind altering substance that impairs
judgement.

The attempt equate tobacoo as a mind altering substance identical to that of cannabis is specious, weak, simplistic, jejune and a complete failure.

If I were so inclined to answer your specious argument my refrain would be simple, Jesus drank wine and did not do bong hits. Therefore wine is not to be prohibited.

I`m simply amazed at the Cheech and Chong stoners that they continually and ironically, habitually confuse Liberty with licentiousness.

Libertarians are close relatives to neo-stalinists and marxists of the left, aka the democrat party when in comes to matters of morality. They both assume they have the liberty to be licentious.


79 posted on 11/10/2007 9:17:58 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: SubGeniusX

Must be a

NWO

goal . . . toward the reduction to 200,000,000 or so population . . . .

destroy memories . . . neuter initiative . . .

identify those given to opting out as “useless eaters” . . .

identify those given to wrecking their health & genetics . . .

Increase the numbers of those who will only yawn at the new gestapo as they are herded down the cattle shuts.


80 posted on 11/10/2007 9:41:21 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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