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I didn't like my adopted daughter so I gave her back
Daily Mail ^ | 8th November 2007 | Natalie Clarke

Posted on 11/08/2007 8:41:58 AM PST by Lorianne

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To: Allegra

Works for me!


281 posted on 12/21/2007 1:42:18 PM PST by najida (As God is my witness! The cockatoos ate my breakfast..)
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To: PeterFinn

Hate to admit it but my own child is less than perfect and there have been times I would have liked to give him back. :-) I don’t understand what this mother expected. Children are not puppies.


282 posted on 12/21/2007 1:47:39 PM PST by ShandaLear (Extremists always meet each other full circle.)
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To: najida

I’m one of those newbies you may be referring to, but thankfully I’m not stupid enough to think Lorianne is the women mentioned in the article. I saw a link to the story on AOL (great way to find news, right?) and as an adoptee, I found it interesting. The AOL link to the article didn’t work, and someone had posted a link to the discussion on your group in the comment section. I couldn’t post my comments without joining, so here I am. Is there a big issue with new people joining the forum or have you guys had trouble with trolls in the past?


283 posted on 12/21/2007 1:57:09 PM PST by crane1976 (~Ash~)
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To: crane1976

Trolls who would join that day and post on a thread and all swear the ‘victim’ was their long lost brother/sister/mother/father/dog/cat etc....

Also, usually the trolls post once and never join the group and discuss what the others have posted. One slam wonders. Which is the case here. You’re the only one to actually discuss and read the whole thread. So thank you!

Lastly, yeah, the fact that some folks are bashing Lorianne (and being newbies too) makes it a bit rude and “trollish” in their hit and run behavior and ignoring the admins requests.

99.9% of the regulars here know that this is a news site and that what is posted ISN’T about the poster.

Otherwise, we like newbies....so welcome! Stay, have fun!


284 posted on 12/21/2007 2:12:07 PM PST by najida (As God is my witness! The cockatoos ate my breakfast..)
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To: najida

Thank you for the welcome! I’ll pull up a chair and bring some popcorn and watch the troll’s with you! lol We’ve had trouble with issues as you described on other boards I have posted on in the past. Very entertaining on boring days when my son is in school!

take care,
Ash


285 posted on 12/21/2007 2:41:35 PM PST by crane1976 (~Ash~)
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To: crane1976
Hi and welcome....

take care,
Ash

FYI, one of the legendary trolls of the early days of FR was a poster named ASH, and his appearance always triggered ASH ALERTS!

Just wanted to warn you if the old timers started freaking out on you. (I'm not an old timer, only been here 7 years, plus 3 lurking.)

We're a fun bunch, so enjoy.

287 posted on 12/21/2007 3:45:36 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RetiredArmy

In this season of Advent my prayers are for all children who suffer the loss of home and family. May Jesus watch over them and bring joy to their hearts and lives.


288 posted on 12/21/2007 4:07:19 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Don Morgan and his Ash alterts, that goes way back.
There is not way this poster is our Ash.


289 posted on 12/21/2007 4:10:55 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

I should use spell check. “no way”


290 posted on 12/21/2007 4:11:55 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Lorianne
This woman was extremely selfish. She wanted a pretty child and she didn’t care what kind of emotions came with it. She didn’t care that the child she chose had a history and pain of her own. She just wanted someone to show off. As a former foster child I can tell you that girl is probably scarred for life. I’d be surprised if she ever trusted anyone again. That woman should be ashamed of herself. A child is a commitment and hard work, not just a toy you can put on a shelf when you don’t want to deal with her. But since she showed such an amazing amount of self-absorbtion, I doubt the idiot woman even realized that she did something wrong by abandoning an already emotionally distraught child just because she upset her life. She makes me sick.
291 posted on 12/21/2007 8:44:54 PM PST by raynefall
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To: oldtique

“the system fails to inform the future parents of the massive amount of problems of the child they are attempting to dump,,and yes i mean dump,,to get rid of the bill that this particular child is costing the county, as counties only see kids as a dollar amount and how does one get rid of that bill,”

This is tragically true, and it leads to a desperate form of thinking that any parents are good enough for these kids. There has been a series of TV ads aired lately (I don’t know if they’re being shown all over the country or only in my area) that show scenes of stupid, clueless, or obnoxious parents dealing with their children. Then the ad says: “You don’t have to be perfect to be a perfect parent. There are thousands of kids in foster care who would love to put up with you.”

Those ads make me sick to my stomach, because they sum up a lot of what our fellow posters have been outraged about. The implied message is that second rate is good enough for these rejected kids, and they should be damn grateful that anybody takes them in, even if that person is a lousy parent.

Granted, you can have lousy biological parents, too, (believe me, I did), but the difference is that nobody has the responsibility to screen biological parents before they let them take you home. A system with an attitude like this sets people up to fail. And the example that started all this commentary is in Britain, which supposedly has more low-cost services available via its more socialist systems than the USA does. Here, they make you jump through hoops to adopt a baby, but if you’re willing to take an older child they’re more than willing to hand one over.


292 posted on 12/21/2007 8:45:01 PM PST by crystaldragon
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To: crystaldragon
"Please do not assume all Liberals think and behave this way."

I don't, many of my posts indicate that I don't believe all on the left are die-hard kool-aid drinkers....

My post was a generalization, meant to point out the main difference between the left and the right....based on my own experiences...

I work in NYC, and as you can imagine, I am an Island of conservatism surrounded by a sea of liberalism.....even my mother-in-law is a true blue liberal....so I have been exposed daily to the liberal mind and thought process...and yes, many of these well meaning people start their sentences with emotionally laden adjectives to defend their personal political beleifs....

When I attempt to remove the emotion from the discussion I am called heartless, misguided, and even a hate-monger/racist....just because a question their pre-conceived notions....

So no, I don't believe all liberals are the same, I've met many who are open to reason and discussion....but I've met far to many who rather live in a world of make believe fabricated on emotion, naivety and ignorance...

So welcome aboard, I hope your stay is long....but, unfortunately, being this is a conservative site...your support of anything liberal probably will get you banned (ie.."Zotted"). To bad, I appreciate hearing what the other side has to say, especially if it is supported by fact and reasonably argued...

Again, good luck, and Merry Christmas...
293 posted on 12/22/2007 9:11:45 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Lorianne
She wanted the child for the wrong reason. She wanted her for her own selfishness. For her own desire to have another child. People that want to foster children need to understand that children have to be nurtured. It’s all about the child, not them or their desires. That poor little girl was let down in the worse possible way. It could have been worse I do suppose. I’ve heard of terrible stories about foster care. At least she didn’t physically abuse her. But emotionally I’m sure she just about killed that baby. “Whoa to the beast and the children” I am no ones judge but I do know it will be judged and judged fairly by my Lord.
294 posted on 12/28/2007 7:47:56 AM PST by Mystdoll
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To: Lorianne

I could swear I’ve read this story before, about a year ago.


295 posted on 12/28/2007 7:49:38 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: Lorianne
This is the saddest story ever! First off, the mother has had no experience dealing with two or more children. One child is one thing...but add another...watch out!. I am a mother of two, and nothing I’ve read about how this adopted child treated the older biological daughter is unusual or wierd. My two fight like hell, and are always taunting and upsetting each other. THIS IS NORMAL! This women was all about herself, and my heart breaks for the little adopted girl. She only gave her 1 year to adjust, and this little girl has been through hell! I will pray for the little girl, that she may find peace and happiness in this life. May you Lorianne never adopt again. You obviously have no idea what you have done to this child, and for your own selfish reasons. She was just a child.
296 posted on 12/28/2007 9:26:04 AM PST by Brioli
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To: Lorianne

I’m adopted myself and before I got married I wasn’t very close to my adoptive mother who was actually supposed to be my aunt (my birthmother’s sister-in-law). I know my birthmother and am still in contact with her. I feel sorry for the fact Zahnia was dropped off by her mother and I hope she finds someone that can work with her and love her. I think she was jealous of Laura and that’s probably why she did the things she did. Again, I hope all is well for both parties involved.


297 posted on 12/28/2007 4:56:39 PM PST by ReineJennifer
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To: Lorianne

Sorry, but those who criticize the adoptive mother are just plain wrong. Yes, she’s an adult, but she has emotions, too. I don’t know her, but mightn’t she have had her own anxieties about rejection, which this child exacerbated? Why must it always be the adult’s fault? All children are not just little darlings, and this child was apparently not making things easier for either herself, the woman who took her in, or her new sibling. There is such a thing as natural chemistry, by the way, and it cannot be forced.

As for treating the child as a “pet,” and patronizing her by putting African themed decorations in her room...does no one at least give the woman credit for trying to make the child feel at home? Perhaps she might have asked how the little girl wanted to have her room done, but to insult her intentions seems awfully holier-than-thou to me.

And what about the woman’s own daughter? Funny how all the terribly righteous comments never mentioned the hideous effect that this literal third wheel might have been having on the woman’s own child? To suddenly have your life made miserable by a stranger determined not to fit in? Someone who is taking your mother’s attention away from you, turning your house and your relationship with your own mom around completely, making your life a nightmare? Does it occur to none of the critics that this child’s life was being made miserable by this intruder, and that her mother had her interests to consider as well...and that, in fact, as her natural daughter, her needs, frankly, were of paramount importance to her mother?

If I had to choose between my own beloved daughter, whom I had nurtured and bonded with for 11 years, and her wellbeing and happiness, and an adoptive child who was given a full year’s trial but seemingly never tried to meet her adoptive mother and sister halfway...I know what I’d do, and it would not be to keep the adoptive child.


298 posted on 01/01/2008 9:29:46 PM PST by Mariclar
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To: Mystdoll

The road to hell....

She should never have taken on this child except to give her a place to live, to be a friend rather than a mother.


299 posted on 01/01/2008 9:39:17 PM PST by RobbyS
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