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Big Brother Spying on Americans' Internet Data? [AT&T Whistleblower Describes Secret Room..]
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Posted on 11/07/2007 2:02:09 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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blabber mouth
To: Sub-Driver
Isn’t this essentially the same thing as the Carnivore/Echelon programs of a decade ago?
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:05:31 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Sub-Driver
Kline should be waterboarded.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:06:12 PM PST
by
balch3
To: Sub-Driver
“An exact copy of all Internet traffic that flowed through critical AT&T cables — e-mails, documents, pictures, Web browsing, voice-over-Internet phone conversations, everything — was being diverted to equipment inside the secret room,”
Prove it.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:06:16 PM PST
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: Sub-Driver
Hmm... That secret room isn’t a secret room. It is the relay for the back-up satellite uplink...
How’s that for an explanation?
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:06:35 PM PST
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: Sub-Driver
Just the kind of tool that a President Hillary would love, eh?
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:06:44 PM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Sub-Driver
Quite aside from nefarious uses, ordinary traffic analysis is done like this to optimize the networks. Further, for anything unencrypted, anyone that owns a device that passes internet traffic can look at that traffic. Gee, start with encrypting anything you have ANY interest in not being read, and go from there.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:07:12 PM PST
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Sub-Driver
Back in the day, I had one of the first network "Sniffer" data monitors.
To: Sub-Driver
An exact copy of all Internet traffic that flowed through critical AT&T cables -- e-mails, documents, pictures, Web browsing, voice-over-Internet phone conversations, everything Pictures? Man, they must have one heck of a collection of porno.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:08:13 PM PST
by
Michael.SF.
("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
To: balch3
Kline should be waterboarded.Why? Waterboarding is a legal interrogation technique in which certain high profile terrorists, suspected to have knowledge of imminent attacks, are coerced into divulging that information. Do you think Kline has knowledge of an impending attack on America?
Or are you just trying to discredit the American Intelligence Community by suggesting that their interrogation techniques are used willy-nilly against American citizens?
To: Sub-Driver
the government has warrantless access to a great deal of Internet traffic should they care to take a peek. Is anyone surprised by this? I would say this is no surprise, no matter what political party is in power.
To: Sub-Driver
Let's see ... Hmmmm ... Government Funded, Internet Traffic, San Francisco Men, Locked Dark Room, Images, Videos ...
Naaahh, I'm sure it was for a good cause.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:09:33 PM PST
by
TexGuy
To: DuncanWaring
“Isnt this essentially the same thing as the Carnivore/Echelon programs of a decade ago?”
Yup.
And why would the Feds need a room at the ISP? Why not just use a few specialized routers at strategic locations?
To: Caesar Soze
he is a traitor to America and should be treated as such.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:10:32 PM PST
by
balch3
To: Sub-Driver
The Pentagon CHOSE ABC to represent it. So either this is planned
OR
traitors are at BOTH ABC and the Pentagon.

Ms. Ashwari-Jennings:"You can trust us. Unless you are an American. "
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:10:50 PM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: tobyhill
"Prove it." Yeah, even though I'm not that technical the logistics seem imposing, it just doesn't "make sense" to me technically.
Of course that's thin ice but still. Perhaps someone with some technical expertise can shed some light on it.
To: tobyhill
I would like to see the proof of this as well having spent 32 years with PT&T,Pacific Bell,SBC and AT&T in Special Services.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:12:30 PM PST
by
afnamvet
(Hunter/Thompson in '08)
To: Sub-Driver
GnuPGKnow it. Use it. Love it. There's a 50% chance that the tools of the GWOT will be in the hands of a Clinton in 2009. Best to prepare now, even if you never use it.
To: TexGuy
That sounds sooooo wrong.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:13:33 PM PST
by
rabscuttle385
(Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering * Go Hoos! * Fred Thompson 2008)
To: Sub-Driver
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:13:40 PM PST
by
BGHater
(Lead. The MSG for the 21st Century.)
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