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Fred Thompson Rejects GOP's Pro-Life Platform Plank
CNS ^ | 11/5/07 | Terrence Jeffrey

Posted on 11/05/2007 7:42:06 AM PST by pissant

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To: Ancesthntr

“I agree that this should be a state-level decision”

I’m sure someone has picked up on this already but here’s my two cents. Do you think beheading 5 year olds should be a state issue? No? Well that’s because you believe everyone has an inalienable right to life. If an unborn baby is a life, it certainly has inalienable rights. If not, no state has the right to tell a women what to do with her body.


101 posted on 11/05/2007 8:16:53 AM PST by demshateGod (Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: juliej
He just lost my vote.

To whom, Hilliary? She's not only pro-abortion, she would probably make Roe v. Wade into a Constitutional Amendment GUARANTEEING abortion on demand.

102 posted on 11/05/2007 8:16:55 AM PST by ssaftler (Which Al is more deadly: Al Qaeda or Al Gore?)
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To: BfloGuy
I wonder how we’ve gotten along all these centuries without a specific Constitutional prohibition of murder?

You've hit the nail on the head, really. Do you think we'll need such an amendment if activist judges begin allowing murder?

That's where we are now with abortion and euthanasia...

103 posted on 11/05/2007 8:17:13 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: Spiff
Romney on Abortion...

"On a questionnaire Planned Parenthood gave to the gubernatorial candidates in 2002, Romney answered ''yes" to the question, 'Do you support the substance of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade?' Romney also professed support for state funding of abortion services for low-income women, [Erin] Rowland [spokeswoman for the Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts] said." - Boston Globe, 3/25/2005

"Marie Sturgis, legislative director of Massachusetts Citizens for Life, said she hasn't detected any change in Romney's stance. The group considers Romney to be an abortion-rights supporter, as do national antiabortion groups such as the Family Research Council." - Boston Globe, 3/25/2005
104 posted on 11/05/2007 8:17:23 AM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: pissant
"Before Roe v. Wade, states made those decisions. I think people ought to be free at state and local levels to make decisions that even Fred Thompson disagrees with. That's what freedom is all about. And I think the diversity we have among the states, the system of federalism we have where power is divided between the state and the federal government is, is, is -- serves us very, very well. I think that's true of abortion. I think Roe v. Wade hopefully one day will be overturned, and we can go back to the pre-Roe v. Wade days. But..."

"Each state would make their own abortion laws?" Russert asked.

"Yeah," said Thompson. "But, but, but to, to, to have an amendment compelling -- going back even further than pre-Roe v. Wade, to have a constitutional amendment to do that, I do not think would be the way to go."

Wow! That sounds like our Founding Fathers could have said it!

Or even Ron Paul!

105 posted on 11/05/2007 8:17:48 AM PST by Designer
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To: ShandaLear

I am the same.

People might think I’m not by virtue of what I say here, but really it’s just basing my views on a few key items:

1. Reality
2. Federalism and the Constitution
3. Net effect - which basically means the best combination of electability and net effect on the issue when elected. Hunter might be “perfect” on abortion, and, while he’s a hell of a guy, he just isn’t going to win. Fred is damn good on the issue despite what some here say and I think he can win.


106 posted on 11/05/2007 8:18:00 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: papasmurf

Please explain how Fred was showing his integrity and consistency when he voted for the federal partial birth abortion ban if he truly believes that federal restrictions on abortion are unconstitutional. At the end of the day Fred’s voting record shows that his opposition to the Human Life Amendment is not about principle but rather politics. His rhapsodies about Federalism are simply opiates for the masses.


107 posted on 11/05/2007 8:18:40 AM PST by dschapin
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To: Califreak

Please show us, oh smart one, where exactly, FRed said that?


108 posted on 11/05/2007 8:19:30 AM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: pissant
To save all you anti-Fred people time typing and lots of google searching, let me just print a weeks worth of anti-Fred headlines for you so you can spend your time doing other things.

Tue Fred Hates Puppies
Wed Fred hasn’t sent his Mom a Christmas Card
Thur Fred’s underware are two sizes too small
Fri 9 out of 10 say they wont vote for a bald guy.
Sat Dozen illegals found in Freds trunk

109 posted on 11/05/2007 8:19:33 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: kinsman redeemer
I'm one. It does.

I can understand that - me being a 2nd Amendment absolutist.

However, you've got to consider whether any other candidate who agrees with you has a snowball's chance in Hell of beating Hillary - because she ASSUREDLY doesn't.

There's no perfect candidate. Pick the one that is the least bad. When analyzing the Republican field and considering both policy positions and electability, FDT is the least bad one for me. Hunter may be better on the policy front (he is for me, anyway), but he's unelectable IMHO, so I can't support him.

110 posted on 11/05/2007 8:19:33 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: TommyDale

“...all he had to do is leave it alone!”

And be a sissy panderer like Rudy Romney? I’m glad he told us he’s for giving states the right to disembowel babies. Now those “pro-lifers” who support him will have to make a decision: Do you remain pro-life or change to pro-choice in order to be hitlery?


111 posted on 11/05/2007 8:20:00 AM PST by demshateGod (Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: azhenfud

There is quite a difference between the two men.

Giuliani might SAY he’d appoint “strict constructionist justices.” That’s fine and dandy, but if you look at who he appointed while mayor, most of them were more like Ginsburg than Scalia. Which means either:

A-he’s lying
B-his definition of “strict constructionist” is a hell of a lot different than mine

Thompson has been consistent on this view. He was the one who helped shepherd John Roberts to the SCOTUS. Says a lot more for who he’d appoint.


112 posted on 11/05/2007 8:20:06 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: BigAlPro
Failing to take an absolutely pro-life stance will cost him that portion of his base.

Within the limits of the Presidents power, he is 100% pro-life. More so than Bush actually. Bush, using a simple EO, could end Federal Funding for abortion providers. He hasn't...

If you are looking for MORE, than you not only violate principle, you set up precedent. We've gotten to this point from too much of that exact mindset.

113 posted on 11/05/2007 8:20:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: pissant

Yes. FDT was instrumental in ditching the GOP’s “Contract with America”, way back when, which disenfranchised it’s own conservative base. Since then we’ve pretty much had a one party system.

We true conservatives have had to watch the party lurch left ever since. If we’d had a brain among us, we’d have founded a second party then, and would be a formidable force today! Duncan Hunter would be the giant Conservative Party candidate to beat in 1980.

Duncan Hunter wears the white hat in this rodeo!The least we can do is make certain that he is the giant Conservative Republican to beat in 1980! Actually, Duncan Hunter transcends party to appeal to conservatives in all parties. If true conservatives unite and get behind Duncan Hunter in the primaries, we can win with him
in the general!


114 posted on 11/05/2007 8:20:24 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: pissant
Roe v. Wade made abortion a Federal issue. It should not be.

Thompson is returning the issue to the states back to where it should be. Even though I haven't committed to any candidate, I agree with his position.

The grass roots is where most of the social issues like abortion should be decided.

115 posted on 11/05/2007 8:20:42 AM PST by what's up
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To: NavyCanDo

LOL!!!!!


116 posted on 11/05/2007 8:21:00 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: pissant
Wrong, again. You DuncanWho promoters stretch the words to attack, same as the MSM.

Because FRed doesn't think a Constitutional Amendment to ban what isn't provided in the Constitution to start with, and promotes (properly) the rights of the States and the People, you wanna make an issue of that?

Get realistic, and join the 21st century and reality of the waste of time on second-tier/non-electable candidates.


117 posted on 11/05/2007 8:21:02 AM PST by traditional1
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Unreal, isn’t it? Anyone who truly wants to know what Thompson believes knows that he believes Roe v Wade should fall back to the states, and the federal government shouldn’t be involved. Oh, and he’s pro life.


118 posted on 11/05/2007 8:21:34 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Spiff

I always hold to the addage that if you give a man enough rope he will hang himself. Fredheads take note!


119 posted on 11/05/2007 8:22:17 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: pissant

Thompson’s “Read My Lips” moment


120 posted on 11/05/2007 8:23:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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