Alive and safe, the brutal Japanese soldiers who butchered 20,000 Allied seamen in cold blood

The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | November 3, 2007 | NIGEL BLUNDELL

[PzLdr]

Unit 731 - Manchuria. A Japanese bio warfare unit that released plague infested rats, fleas, cholera and all sorts of other stuff in China. they also practiced vivisection and other “medical experiments” [freezing z prisoner’s arm by pouring water on it, then snapping it off; tying prisoners to stakes and dropping artillery in to see schrapnel patterns, and gangrene, etc]

[Stoat]

My understanding is a large part of the reason the Allies didn’t go after the Japanese and Germans for violation of the Geneva convention at sea is because they didn’t want their own indiscretions being brought out. Nobody was innocent in this one.

I've never heard anyone suggest that any party is 'completely' innocent of any wrongdoing in WW2, but I also have never heard any (credible) suggestions that any wrongdoing of the USA or our British or Aussie Friends  was anywhere remotely hinting of the scale of the magnitude or of the brutality so enthusiastically engaged in by the Japanese.

It's a matter of degree, and in the grand scale of things the Japanese stand way, way out in these matters.

From the article:

Felton said that the Americans were the most assiduous of the Allied powers in collecting evidence of crimes against their servicemen, including those of Surgeon Commander Chisato Ueno and eight staff who were tried and hanged for dissecting an American prisoner while he was alive in the Philippines in 1945.

However, the British authorities lacked the staff, money and resources of the Americans, and the British Labour government was not fully committed to pursuing Japanese war criminals into the Fifties.

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

Wow, someone was just telling me about that book today in shul. He mentioned about President Bush (GHW) surviving. Have you seen the footage on Breitbart of the Japanese rounding up thousands of dolphins and butchering them? I’m by no means comparing men to dolphins, but the Japanese fishermen's angry defiance and inhumane attitude toward this slaughter is a sign of a moral corruption in those who would perpetrate such an act.

[PzLdr]

We ran out after the two.

[Peter Libra]

The Japanese took their frustrations out on the civilians of Nanking, killing over 300,000 in less than three months.

And people want to destroy the Second Amendment to the Constitution. What even one tenth of those poor Chinese civilians could have done with an old fashioned high powered rifle and fifty rounds. Brings to mind an old slogan in Britain 1940.

You can always take one with you.

[PzLdr]

Why is it with folks like your media droid, that “orders are orders” is never part of German culture, but Japanese atrocities are explainable by their culture.

[investigateworld]

The Japanese really are nervy b*stards, they've added a train engine to their National Shrine which honors their war dead. The engine was from the Railroad line they built during WWII. The very same RR line they murdered 20,000 Allied POW's during it's construction.

Bridge On the River Kwai, a movie from the 1950's, depicts a tiny portion of the suffering of their slave labors.

[conservative cat]

My ex-husband’s great uncle was a Death March survivor and was also without wife or children. I, unfortunately, never met him, nor did my ex. He was apparently quite the character (and everyone was very fond of him).

[jblair]

ping

[SW6906]

"In Germany, Holocaust denial is a crime. In Japan, it is government policy."Where was that museum in Japan that you went to that totally distorted history?

[ikka]

Mebbe an Urban Legend, but every Filipino and Chinese I worked with in the 50s had the same attitude.

Every Filipino I know even NOW is well aware of shall we say Japanese "behavior" during their occupation of the Philippines.

[ansel12]

“Me, too. In fact, the Japanese leader of the Pearl Harbor attack later converted to Christianity due to a former American POW and Doolittle Raider, Jacob Daniel DeShazer. I found out about him through a tribute to him on television. Forgiveness was his inspiration and no one who reads about his own change of heart during his captivity can say he didn’t practice what he preached.”

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My father fought them from the beginning until the end, including serving on the U.S.S. Marblehead during it’s long and horrible ordeal.

As I was reading the thread, I was especially struck in a positive way by your post.

[diogenes ghost]

"...intended for Germany. But Truman ordered it shipped to the Pacific when Japan waited so long to surrender after the first two nukes."

You need a dose of history, with a chaser of common sense.

[microgood]

Wow, someone was just telling me about that book today in shul. He mentioned about President Bush (GHW) surviving. Have you seen the footage on Breitbart of the Japanese rounding up thousands of dolphins and butchering them? I’m by no means comparing men to dolphins, but the Japanese fishermen's angry defiance and inhumane attitude toward this slaughter is a sign of a moral corruption in those who would perpetrate such an act.

Yes, Bush was hit while dive bombing Ichi Jima and his crew jumped out while he tried to see if he could save the plane. They were captured by the Japanese and later killed and cannabilized.

His plane crashed and the other pilots prevented the Japanese from coming out in boats to capture him and he was picked up by a submarine sometime later.

About the cruelty of the Japanese, one thing the book points out is the rigged top down structure of the Japanese military. You could not disobey an order or the penalty was death. Immediate death.That is part of what kept the whole thing going.

Whether there is some inherent cruelty in the Japanese culture, I do not know. But rigid and cruel regimes who tolerate no insubordination have a pretty good track record for cruelty and genocide.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

They’re in their eighties. But not too late to hang them, I suppose. Get real.

[Stonewall Jackson]

There is an elderly gentleman who comes into my store every couple of weeks who survived the Death March. He was shipped to Japan in 1943 and spent the rest of the war working in a copper mine, where he set off the explosive charges.

He quickly discovered a way to keep the Japanese from beating him; just act crazy. They didn't want to get too close to him out of fear that the craziness would rub off. But at the same time, they didn't want to kill him and anger the gods, who might just transfer his insanity to the person who killed him. It was quite a gamble on his part, but it paid off in that he survived the brutality of the mine and is still alive today.

I've helped him load up his purchases before and he has a couple of bumper stickers on the back of his truck, one has a mushroom cloud with "twice wasn't enough" circling the top, the second says "Made in America, tested in Japan".

He is quite a character, and I hope he has it easy for the rest of his life, for he has certainly done his time in hell.

[ought-six]

“We only had one more, and it was intended for Germany.”

I don’t know where you learned that, but Germany surrendered in May, 1945, before we had comepleted the construction of ANY nukes. So, it makes no sense that we would have built and designated a nuke to be used against Germany when Germany was already out of the war, don’t you think?

[diogenes ghost]

"But let bygones be bygones."

Your teen-age daughter is nearly killed in a viscious attack by a drugged-out gang-banger. She is horribly disfigured for life, and the horror of her ordeal has left her an emotional wreck, unable to maintain any family life.

Her attacker is sentenced to 20-40 years, gets out after 12 years with good-time.

He moves into a house three doors down the street.

Still letting bygones be bygones?

[Balding_Eagle]

At which point the teacher (of Japanese descent) told her how terrible the bomb was.

It was meant to be terrible.

You have a brave daughter, and good for you too.

[Balding_Eagle]

At which point the teacher (of Japanese descent) told her how terrible the bomb was.

It was meant to be terrible.

You have a brave daughter, and good for you too.