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Posted on 10/30/2007 7:07:06 AM PDT by Reaganesque
PING for - A Gazebo in Braintree.
That could be the title of a classic book, couldn’t it? “A Gazebo in Braintree” by Mitt Romney. LOL
Mitt’s naysayers point to comments he made while running for election in the liberal state of Massachusetts, but his record of governing as a fiscal and social conservative is clear.
The only people who are accusing him of flip-flopping are MA liberals who felt that they tricked into voting for him.
It is nice to know that he is fiscally conservative....
I am still keeping my options open. I want to see some more from Romney, hunter and Thompson.
You mean those who know him best? Like the people who kept pointing out Mike Dukakis' "Massachusetts Miracle" was a fraud and that he was a lying failure?
No, there was a MA miracle. Problem is, it wasn’t done by Dukakis, it was a combination of Reagan at the federal level and the DINO (later Republican) Governor Ed King at the state level. Dukakis took credit for King’s success. King was the last great Governor of the state. Precious Willard couldn’t hold his jockeys.
LOL. Yes, somehow “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” popped in my head when I read that.
Nice set of vetoes.
“Not sure but i think the Clinton’s allowed that to go away.”
The courts did. Rootie was actually one of the petitoners because BJC line itemed a 100M or so from a grant to NYC.
Ask Reaganesque how many of his vetoes were sustained. Again, there aren’t enough Republicans in the legislature to sustain a GOP Governor’s veto. If the vetoes WERE sustained, then credit would have to be given to Democrat legislators (we don’t wanna do that, do we ?). The claims of Romney being such a fiscal Conservative are overblown, since after all, both Dukakis and Howard Dean balanced their state budgets. Are we going to give THEM the GOP nomination for President ?
Of course there wasn’t enough Republicans to sustain the veto, this is Massachusetts we’re talking about.
Would you prefer he hadn’t made the vetoes at all? Or would you complain about that, too?
There used to be... until the string of RINO Governors shriveled the party. Or have you folks conveniently forgotten that as recently as 1992, 40% of the Senate of MA was Republican. Now it’s heading down towards 10%. That’s called gross incompetence and deliberate mismanagement. Not even the rodents could do that to us. You think incompetence deserves a promotion ?
I’d wait until he actually provides evidence of an override before agreeing with him.
Just because the legislature’s mostly democrat, doesn’t mean all the democrats were willing to go on record for these individual projects.
The beauty of the line-item veto is that it forces politicians to stand up and be counted. IN fact, most line-item veto bills allow override by simple majority vote.
So it isn’t about requiring a supermajority, just about making a representative vote directly on stupid spending.
You made the claim about the vetoes getting overturned. You should be prepared to back it up. Don't make others do your homework for you.
FYI, it's true that many of his vetoes were overturned, especially toward the end of his term. But, some very important ones stuck, such as his veto of a bill to give in-state tuition to illegals in the UMass system.
In 2003, most of his spending vetoes stuck. This was very important, because tax revenues were down in that year, and there would have been a huge deficit without some spending cuts or tax increases. The Dems wanted to raise tax rates to close the gap, but he held his ground, prevented the tax hike, and insisted on spending cuts. He won. This was a huge victory.
It was harder to sustain his spending vetoes in the last couple years because the state was not in fiscal crisis anymore (largely thanks to him standing his ground in 2003). The economy was expanding faster, which caused an increase in tax revenue without a hike in tax rates. With the state budget flush with cash, it was much harder to stop the Dems from spending it, even though he did everything he could to try to stop it. I don't see why he should be blamed for his veto overrides, though, since he didn't elect the legislature.
If the vetoes WERE sustained, then credit would have to be given to Democrat legislators (we don’t wanna do that, do we ?).
LOL. That's rich. If the veto gets overturned, it's Romney's fault and he deserves all the blame (never mind that he had no control over the composition of the legislature). But if it gets sustained, he gets no credit.
The claims of Romney being such a fiscal Conservative are overblown, since after all, both Dukakis and Howard Dean balanced their state budgets. Are we going to give THEM the GOP nomination for President?
The difference is that Mitt did it without raising tax rates.
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