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Oil sands seen as 'threat No. 1,' as U.S. may target dirtier fuels
Globe and Mail ^ | 30OCT07 | SHAWN MCCARTHY

Posted on 10/30/2007 2:09:06 AM PDT by familyop

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Are we de-evolving? ;-)
1 posted on 10/30/2007 2:09:11 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop
WTF?

U.S. government moves toward a national climate change policy that could target dirtier fossil fuels such as the oil sands bitumen, a former U.S. energy official said yesterday.

Oil sand is the best thing energy-wise to happen to us. When the oil gets scarce oil sand will be our future.

a former U.S. energy official

Well at least a former. I sure hope this isn't for real.

2 posted on 10/30/2007 2:17:53 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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Me, too.

But we just had Kansas deny a license for a coal-fired powerplant on the basis that it would contribute to global warming because of the carbon emissions, which is a similar thing.


3 posted on 10/30/2007 2:24:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SolidWood
"a former U.S. energy official"

A former afficial free to lobby for his new client.

yitbos

4 posted on 10/30/2007 2:26:17 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: FreedomPoster

Meanwhile, China is building these coal-fired plants at a rapid pace and no one says boo.


5 posted on 10/30/2007 2:40:16 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Life's a bitch, so don't vote for one on November 4, 2008!)
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To: familyop

I’m no techno oil whiz, but isn’t this what a refining process address’s?


6 posted on 10/30/2007 2:48:20 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

And without stack gas precipitators and scrubbers.


7 posted on 10/30/2007 2:49:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: familyop
prominent U.S. environmental groups have identified the oil sands as "threat No. 1" in North America's growing battle against greenhouse gas emissions.

Too bad the sun is causing our (minor) warming, so this won't do a damn thing. Besides, you would do more to reduce "greenhouse gases" by capping a single volcano (if that were possible).

8 posted on 10/30/2007 2:50:48 AM PDT by montag813
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It sure seems like it...

CO2 causing global warming must be the biggest scam yet...

When the truth is finally learned none of the jerks who have perpetrated this fraud will ever be held to account. Makes one sick.

9 posted on 10/30/2007 2:54:52 AM PDT by DB
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Are we de-evolving? ;-)
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In some way we apparently are! It is difficult to grasp all the mindlessness that is now being bandied about in a serious fashion, ideas that would have provoked howls of laughter from a group of mule-following, fourth grade-educated dirt farmers 70 years ago are now being presented as intelligent thinking.


10 posted on 10/30/2007 3:16:18 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

"Wees like toos help you. You know? I myself just happen to work, until I retired, in that very same department. Matter of fact, I wrote the regulation. No one knows it better, and fortuitously I happen to have, now, a private 'consulting company' which, for a very reasonable, to me, fee will 'protect' you."

11 posted on 10/30/2007 3:16:59 AM PDT by Leisler (RNC, Rino National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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Besides, you would do more to reduce "greenhouse gases" by capping a single volcano (if that were possible).

No, not correct. The total emissions of all volcanoes is a lot less than fossil fuels.

12 posted on 10/30/2007 3:25:33 AM PDT by palmer
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CO2 causing global warming must be the biggest scam yet...

I agree. The vilification of CO2 will give capitalism terminal frostbite.

13 posted on 10/30/2007 3:34:50 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: SolidWood

The Dems have spent the last 40 years throwing monkey wrenches into machinery of the GOP Administrations. This is just the next monkey wrench they have decided to throw in. If a Republican is elected, the Dems will ban oil from oil sands so as to create an economic obstacle to overcome. If a Democrat is elected, they won’t.

One way to throw them a loop would be to pass it before a Dem takes office, but since the GOP is not in control, that’s not likely to happen.


14 posted on 10/30/2007 3:49:30 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: palmer

The total emissions of all volcanoes is a lot less than fossil fuels. Says who??


15 posted on 10/30/2007 4:12:52 AM PDT by texozland
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The climate change challenge is only one of several "above ground risks" facing the oil sands projects

What challenge? I'll bet if you asked most Canadians, they would welcome a 1 or 2 degree increase in temperature up there. Then they wouldn't have to fly down to Palm Springs every winter to warm up.

16 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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Lots-o-links. Here's one: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/energy/Companion/E16.4.pdf.xpdf

12 to 27 gigatonnes per year (Gt/yr) from volcanoes and seafloor spreading

Human fossil fuel emissions are about 7000Gt/yr.

17 posted on 10/30/2007 4:30:10 AM PDT by palmer
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To: familyop

I’m already buying up property with the best caves. My next move is to corner the market on flint knives and spears.


18 posted on 10/30/2007 4:34:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

China could drill of Fla. if they wanted to.


19 posted on 10/30/2007 4:41:09 AM PDT by Waco
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To: familyop

they always talk about peak oil and all the unsavory governments that we have to get oil from but if you include oil sand and shale canada has the worlds largest oil reserves and at this point they are untouched


20 posted on 10/30/2007 4:47:47 AM PDT by bigjackattack
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