Giuliani is GOP's best shot against Hillary, said Ford

NY Daily News ^

[stockstrader]

I have--and FR (which IS a representative sample of the CONSERVATIVE wing of the Republican Party)--has no use for Rudy.

If you want to help elect Hillary by SPLITTING and DIVIDING the Party WIDE OPEN (while demoralizing the base)--Rudy is the RIGHT MAN AT THE RIGHT TIME!!

What has happened on FR is good,,,,VERY GOOD,,,,as it portends the split that will occur in the Party if the Party does something totally stupid--like nominating a LIBERAL that is totally out-of-sync with the base.

Yes, please DO look at FR poll results....lol

[Dustbunny]

Yes, please DO look at FR poll results....lol

I did as I voted for Duncan Hunter..... LOL

[red irish]

True and many people just plain don’t like politicians anymore because they know they don’t give a damn about the American people.

[red irish]

I wonder how he is doing considering he didn’t show any mercy to the unborn by standing up for them.

[John Leland 1789]

Of Course! Jerry Ford was a Rockefeller Republican.

[Sadecki]

FR (which IS a representative sample of the CONSERVATIVE wing of the Republican Party...

With all due respect, FR doesn't seem reflective of the GOP base at all. The widespread support here of Duncan Hunter is proof of that. He is planted deeply in the 2nd tier. With no hope of getting out. If FR really was speaking for the GOP base, Hunter would be in the top 4 at least. But he's not.

As for the other candidates that I see touted here-- McCain, Romney, Thompson, Paul, and Huckabee -- none of them live up to the brand "conservatism" that is embraced by most here. And depending on who you are talking to here, all of them have serious flaws in their conservative credentials.

In fact, The closest thing to a consensus here seems to be in the distaste for Giuliani. And he's the GOP frontrunner. Which makes it even harder to argue that FR-type conservatives are the base of the Republican party.

[Sadecki]

FR (which IS a representative sample of the CONSERVATIVE wing of the Republican Party...

With all due respect, FR doesn't seem reflective of the GOP base at all. The widespread support here of Duncan Hunter is proof of that. He is planted deeply in the 2nd tier. With no hope of getting out. If FR really was speaking for the GOP base, Hunter would be in the top 4 at least. But he's not.

As for the other candidates that I see touted here-- McCain, Romney, Thompson, Paul, and Huckabee -- none of them live up to the brand "conservatism" that is embraced by most here. And depending on who you are talking to here, all of them have serious flaws in their conservative credentials.

In fact, The closest thing to a consensus here seems to be in the distaste for Giuliani. And he's the GOP frontrunner. Which makes it even harder to argue that FR-type conservatives are the base of the Republican party.

[Sadecki]

The anti-Rudy crowd (me included) needs to get behind just one alternative or he will win. Romney or Thompson. A split decision will hand the nomination to Rudy.

I agree. Which is what Rudy is counting on. From the posts I've read here the past few weeks it seems like the anti-rudy crowd is going to split their vote between Hunter, Romney, Thompson, McCain and Paul

All Rudy probably needs is about 10% of people who call themselves traditional conservatives, and he will take the nomination.

BTW: Neither Romney or Thompson can win in the general election -- even against Hillary. Thompson is too boring and slow; Romney to insincere and "Kerry-like". Also, if the GOP fields any other candidate but Rudy, that opens the door for Bloomberg to enter the race as an independent. And he can drop $500 million of his won money into his campaign without even blinking.

[ClarenceThomasfan]

I agree with you about Bloomberg. If Rudy is the GOP nominee, he probably won’t run out of loyalty. Rudy endorsed him for mayor and I don’t see how he can run against him for president.

If someone else is the nominee besides Rudy, Bloomberg will drop into the race quicker than Britney’s Spears underwear.

NO RUDY = THIRD PARTY RUN BY BLOOMBERG

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

then you better start allowing the Executive to send in the guard to clear out some of these agencies. The bureaucrats laugh in the face of elected officialdom. They know those guys come and go.

How about amending the Civil Service regs to require periodic competency testing?

Regards,
GtG

[WoofDog123]

“They all failed at least one of my three except for our next President “DUNCAN HUNTER”.”

with the obvious exception of Gerald Ford, the President also must have won an election to be President or Vice-president under normal circumstances. (no speaker of the house succession yet).....

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

You either do not know what next means or are just being a smart a$$.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

He is planted deeply in the 2nd tier. With no hope of getting out.

Hunter didn't take advantage of the New Media like Paul and Thompson did, and got burned. That doesn't mean that he's NOT representative of the GOP; I would say that Hunter is the purest Republican in the race.

McCain, Romney, Thompson, Paul, and Huckabee -- none of them live up to the brand "conservatism" that is embraced by most here. And depending on who you are talking to here, all of them have serious flaws in their conservative credentials.

All of them are certainly more conservative than friggin' Rudy. The fact that their conservatism varies is irrelevant.

The closest thing to a consensus here seems to be in the distaste for Giuliani.

You damn right. Rudy is a fricking liberal. Pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-homosexual rights, pro-authoritarian....he does not represent the Republican Party at all.

And he's the GOP frontrunner.

Those polls are fabricated because the MSM is salivating over a Rudy vs Hillary matchup, knowing that conservatives will split and possibly give the election to Hillary, who'll win with even less than the 43% that Bill got in 1992. Rudy needs to be taken out of the primaries or else you can kiss the GOP goodbye, because I'm sure in the Hell ain't campaigning for or donating to any Republicans if Rudy's nominated.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

All Rudy probably needs is about 10% of people who call themselves traditional conservatives, and he will take the nomination.

Whatever votes cast by socons for Rudy will be offset by the independents and libertarians who will vote for Paul or Thompson. I'm telling you, Rudy is boxed in. He has no base of support. Even liberals aren't going to cross over and vote for him, they'll just vote for the Dim in their primaries.

Neither Romney or Thompson can win in the general election -- even against Hillary.

Pure opinion, the facts say otherwise.

Thompson is too boring and slow; Romney to insincere and "Kerry-like".

Thompson is a savvy campaigner and he'll finish strong in the end, plus he has the presence. Romney is more articulate than Hillary, at least.

Also, if the GOP fields any other candidate but Rudy, that opens the door for Bloomberg to enter the race as an independent.

Good, let Bloomberg enter the race and drain more liberal votes away from Hillary and waste his money. Conservatives, independents, and libertarians will never vote for Bloomberg.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is just plain stupid.

Bloomterd, Giussolini and Hitlery are the same... the NYC Gaystapo:

[Sadecki]

Those polls are fabricated

how convenient. When the facts don't fit in with your narrative just dismiss them as "fabricated"

[WoofDog123]

“You either do not know what next means or are just being a smart a$$.”

None of the above. Duncan Hunter is not electable nationally, imho, and isn’t going to be the GOP nominee.

But, I might be wrong. What are his current poll numbers for the GOP nomination? Is there any precedent for candidates polling at his numbers 1 year before the election coming from behind to win the party nomination AND the national election? (there might be, but before my lifetime).