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Hurricane Noel
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Posted on 10/27/2007 7:12:41 PM PDT by nwctwx

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To: NautiNurse

They are warning us here in South Florida that Halloween is going to be a wash-out.

Great, just after I bought four bags of candy.


121 posted on 10/30/2007 4:14:44 AM PDT by twin2
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The 7 am intermediate advisory should be up in about a half-hour, but here's the 4 am discussion. Of note, the winds in Florida are not being blamed on him, yet, but he's now expected to become a Category 1 hurricane sometime tomorrow:

Tropical Storm Noel Discussion Number 11

Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on October 30, 2007

Surface observations and radar from Holguin Cuba indicate that
center of Noel has been hugging the north coast of Cuba. The Cuban
weather station 78365...Punta Lucrecia... reported a wind shift and
a minimum pressure of near 1000 mb as the center moved nearby.  The
radar also shows that most of the strongest convective bands are to
the north of the center...while the cloud pattern is a little
better organized on satellite. The SFMR on board of the U.S Air
Force reconnaissance plane recently measured surface winds of 52
knots to the north of the center. Based on this data...the initial
intensity has been set at 50 knots. Noel has a chance to strengthen
a little bit more as it moves away from Cuba and before the shear
increases.  The official forecast brings the intensity to 65 knots
which is a blend of SHIPS and the GFDL models.
 
Cuban radars indicate that Noel has been moving westward or 280
degrees at 10 knots. However...this motion is expected to be
short-lived and the cyclone should turn toward the northwest later
today and then northward...as a mid-level trough develops over the
eastern Gulf of Mexico and Florida. Thereafter...Noel should
recurve or move northeast with increasing forward speed away from
the United States. It should then become extratropical beyond 3
days over the open Atlantic. This is consistent with all track
guidance which unanimously turns Noel sharply toward the northeast
away from Florida in about 36 hours when the cyclone is forecast to
be centered over the northwestern Bahamas.  However...a tropical
storm watch may still be required for Southeast Florida later today
if Noel moves father westward than anticipated and the winds
expand.

The strong gusty winds currently affecting Southeast Florida are
associated with a strong high pressure system to the north and are
not directly related to the circulation of Noel. See statements
from NWS local forecast office.
 
 
Forecast positions and Max winds
 
initial      30/0900z 21.3n  76.0w    50 kt
 12hr VT     30/1800z 22.2n  77.4w    55 kt
 24hr VT     31/0600z 23.3n  78.2w    60 kt
 36hr VT     31/1800z 24.5n  78.5w    65 kt
 48hr VT     01/0600z 26.0n  77.8w    60 kt
 72hr VT     02/0600z 31.0n  72.4w    45 kt...becoming extratropical
 96hr VT     03/0600z 37.0n  66.5w    45 kt...extratropical
120hr VT     04/0600z 45.0n  58.0w    45 kt...extratropical
 
$$
forecaster Avila

122 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:54 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: twin2
Don’t worry - the kids who come dressed as teenagers will help clean you out.

The better your costume and younger your age decides how much and what quality of candy you get at my door.

123 posted on 10/30/2007 4:52:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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Tropical Storm Noel Intermediate Advisory Number 11A

Statement as of 8:00 am EDT on October 30, 2007

...Noel moving westward over eastern Cuba...
At 8 am EDT...1200z...the government of the Bahamas has discontinued
the Tropical Storm Warning for the southeastern Bahamas.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the central
Bahamas...and a Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch remain
in effect for the northwestern Bahamas.
 
A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the Cuban provinces
of Ciego de Avila...Camaguey...Las Tunas... Holguin...and
Guantanamo.
 
Interests in southern Florida should monitor the progress of Noel. 
A tropical storm watch may be required for portions of Southeast
Florida later today.
 
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
 
At 800 am EDT...1200z...radar data from Holguin Cuba indicate that
the center of Tropical Storm Noel was located inland over Cuba near
latitude 21.0 north...longitude 76.8 west...or about 35 miles...60
km...west-northwest of Holguin Cuba...and about 275 miles...445
km...south of Nassau in the Bahamas.
 
Noel has been moving toward the west near 12 mph...19 km/hr.
However...Noel is expected to turn toward the northwest during the
next 24 hours.  On this track...the center of Noel should emerge
off the north coast of Cuba by tonight or tomorrow.
 
Maximum sustained winds have decreased and are now near 50 mph...85
km/hr...with higher gusts.  Some restrengthening is forecast once
the center of Noel moves back over water.
 
Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 175 miles...280 km
mainly to the north of the center.
 
Estimated minimum central pressure is 1000 mb...29.53 inches.
 
Above normal tides are likely within the warning areas.
 
Noel is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 10 to 20
inches over Hispaniola...with possible isolated maximum totals of
30 inches.  Total accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with possible
maximum amounts of 15 inches...are possible over the all of the
Bahamas.  These rains...particularly in Hispaniola... are expected
to cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides.
 
Repeating the 800 am EDT position...21.0 N...76.8 W.  Movement
toward...west near 12 mph.  Maximum sustained winds...50 mph.
Minimum central pressure...1000 mb.
 
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
1100 am EDT.
 
$$
Forecaster Knabb/Landsea

124 posted on 10/30/2007 5:00:54 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: NautiNurse
As I keep saying, I'm just hoping we get some rain.

Florida Freeper


125 posted on 10/30/2007 5:14:27 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper


126 posted on 10/30/2007 5:15:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Yall keep a close eye on this one.


127 posted on 10/30/2007 6:46:58 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: steveegg

Heading WEST? Interesting.


128 posted on 10/30/2007 7:39:11 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: nwctwx

I wish it would hit south florida......for so many reasons....


129 posted on 10/30/2007 7:45:20 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Bushbacker1

No....hurricane seasons ends the end of November.


130 posted on 10/30/2007 7:45:45 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: VeniVidiVici
That "west" motion was over the previous 12-18 hours. The advisories use averaging to take out any short-term wobbles, with the side effect of masking, at least initially, a significant change.

Let me dig up the 11 am advisories to see if anything changed.

131 posted on 10/30/2007 8:07:19 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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Tropical Storm Noel Advisory Number 12

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on October 30, 2007

...Noel weakens a little over Cuba...
...Heavy rains continue over Hispaniola...and portions of the
Bahamas and Cuba...
 
At 1100 am EDT...1500 UTC...the government of the Bahamas has
discontinued the Hurricane Watch for the northwestern Bahamas...but
a Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the central and
northwestern Bahamas.
 
A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the Cuban provinces
of Ciego de Avila...Camaguey...Las Tunas...Holguin...and Guantanamo.
 
Interests in southern Florida should monitor the progress of Noel.
A tropical storm watch could be required for portions of Southeast
Florida later today or tonight.
 
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
 
At 1100 am EDT...1500z...the center of Tropical Storm Noel was
located near latitude 21.1 north...longitude 77.4 west or about 40
miles... 60 km...east-southeast of Camaguey Cuba and about 270 miles
...435 km...south of Nassau in the northwestern Bahamas.
 
Noel is moving toward the west near 12 mph...19 km/hr.  A gradual
turn toward the northwest is forecast during the next 24 hours.  On
this track...the center of Noel is expected to remain inland over
Cuba today and tonight...but emerge off the northern coast of Cuba
by tomorrow.
 
Maximum sustained winds are near 45 mph...75 km/hr...with higher
gusts.  Little change in strength is forecast during the next 24
hours.
 
Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 175 miles...280
km...mainly to the east from the center.
 
Estimated minimum central pressure is 1001 mb...29.56 inches.
Above normal tides are likely within the warning areas.
 
Noel is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 10 to 20
inches over Hispaniola...with possible isolated maximum totals of
30 inches.  Total accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with possible
maximum amounts of 15 inches...are possible over southeastern Cuba
and the Bahamas.  These rains...particularly in Hispaniola... are
expected to cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides.
 
Repeating the 1100 am EDT position...21.1 N...77.4 W.  Movement
toward...west near 12 mph.  Maximum sustained winds...45 mph.
Minimum central pressure...1001 mb.
 
An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 200 PM EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 500
PM EDT.
 
$$
Forecaster Knabb

132 posted on 10/30/2007 8:09:11 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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Tropical Storm Noel Discussion Number 12

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on October 30, 2007

Visible satellite imagery...radar imagery from Camaguey Cuba...and
surface observations clearly indicate that the center of Noel
remains inland over eastern Cuba.  Plenty of rain bands...
however...still extend well away from the center in the eastern
semicircle...continuing the heavy rains for Hispaniola that have
also spread into the Bahamas.  My best estimate of the maximum
winds is 40 kt...which would most likely be occurring in the bands
between eastern Cuba and the Bahamas.  The next Air Force
reconnaissance aircraft is not scheduled until late tonight since
the center of Noel will likely spend the day over land...as the
aircraft do not typically make center fixes over land.

The circulation center has been moving generally westward or 270
degrees at about 10 kt...to the south of a low- to mid-level ridge. 
As that ridge slides eastward during the next couple of days as a
short-wave trough approaches the East Coast of the United
States...Noel should eventually move northward off of Cuba and
eventually turn northeastward.  The timing of the recurvature is
not agreed upon by the various models...but the model consensus
does not bring Noel back over water until tomorrow morning...and
neither will the official forecast.  The remainder of the official
track is along the same path as the previous advisory...but is
slower during the first three days.

The forecast of an extended stay over Cuba requires a lower
intensity forecast during the next 48 hours.  Noel might weaken a
little more today and tonight over land.  Once it emerges over
water again...it could restrengthen as it approaches the
Bahamas...but probably not as much as in the previous advisory
since the circulation will take time to become reestablished.  The
chances of Noel becoming a hurricane appear less now...and most of
the objective guidance does not forecast this to occur.  Notable
strengthening could occur...however...once Noel becomes
extratropical in about three days.

The strong gusty winds currently affecting portions of Florida are
associated with a strong high pressure system to the north and are
not directly related to the circulation of Noel. See statements
from NWS local forecast office.
 
Forecast positions and Max winds
 
initial      30/1500z 21.1n  77.4w    40 kt...inland
 12hr VT     31/0000z 21.4n  78.3w    35 kt...inland
 24hr VT     31/1200z 22.5n  78.7w    40 kt...near coast of Cuba
 36hr VT     01/0000z 24.0n  78.6w    50 kt...over water
 48hr VT     01/1200z 26.2n  77.4w    50 kt
 72hr VT     02/1200z 32.5n  71.0w    55 kt...extratropical
 96hr VT     03/1200z 39.0n  64.5w    60 kt...extratropical
120hr VT     04/1200z 46.5n  58.5w    60 kt...extratropical
 
$$
forecaster Knabb

133 posted on 10/30/2007 8:11:17 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: steveegg

How about a map?


134 posted on 10/30/2007 8:24:29 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Fawn
One map, coming up (this might update with new advisories, but don't quote me)...


135 posted on 10/30/2007 9:29:48 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: steveegg

Thanks....I hope it goes a little more west..... :)


136 posted on 10/30/2007 9:49:08 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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Tropical Storm Noel Advisory Number 13

Statement as of 5:00 PM EDT on October 30, 2007

...Noel still centered inland over Cuba...
 
At 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...the government of Cuba has extended the
Tropical Storm Warning for Cuba westward and southward.  A Tropical
Storm Warning is now in effect for the Cuban provinces of Sancti
Spiritus...Ciego de Avila...Camaguey...Las Tunas...Granma...
Holguin...Santiago de Cuba...and Guantanamo.
 
A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the central and
northwestern Bahamas.
 
Interests in southern Florida should monitor the progress of Noel.
A tropical storm watch could be required for portions of
southeastern Florida tonight or tomorrow.
 
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
 
At 500 PM EDT...2100z...the center of Tropical Storm Noel was
located near latitude 21.0 north...longitude 78.0 west or about 30
miles... 45 km...south-southwest of Camaguey Cuba and about 280
miles...450 km...south of Nassau.
 
Noel is moving toward the west near 8 mph...13 km/hr.  A gradual
turn toward the northwest is forecast during the next 24 hours.  On
this track...the center of Noel is expected to remain over Cuba
today and tonight...but emerge off the northern coast of Cuba
tomorrow.
 
Maximum sustained winds are near 40 mph...65 km/hr...with higher
gusts.  Little change in strength is forecast during the next 24
hours.
 
Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 175 miles...280
km...mainly to the northeast from the center.
 
Estimated minimum central pressure is 1001 mb...29.56 inches.
 
Above normal tides are likely within the warning areas.
 
Noel is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 10 to 20
inches over Hispaniola...with possible isolated maximum totals of
30 inches.  Total accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with possible
maximum amounts of 15 inches...are possible over southeastern Cuba
and the Bahamas.  These rains...particularly in Hispaniola... are
expected to cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides.
 
Repeating the 500 PM EDT position...21.0 N...78.0 W.  Movement
toward...west near 8 mph.  Maximum sustained winds...40 mph.
Minimum central pressure...1001 mb.
 
An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 800 PM EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 1100
PM EDT.
 
$$
Forecaster Knabb/Landsea

137 posted on 10/30/2007 2:44:48 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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Tropical Storm Noel Discussion Number 13

Statement as of 5:00 PM EDT on October 30, 2007

The center of Noel is still clearly discernible in visible satellite
imagery...having spent the day moving essentially due westward...
although at a slightly slower forward speed of about 7 knots. 
Surface observations are generally consistent with the position
derived from the imagery...although some of those observations
suggest the center could be a bit south of our advisory position.

The initial intensity estimate is set to 35 kt...based in part on a
surface wind observation of 35 kt from a dropsonde...well to the
northeast of the center...launched by the NOAA Gulfstream-IV jet
that has begun its synoptic surveillance mission.
Despite the continued westward motion today...Noel is still expected
to gradually turn toward the north during the next 24-36 hours...as
the low- to mid-level ridge to its north slides eastward in advance
of an approaching short-wave and frontal system.  While the various
dynamical models continue to disagree on how long it will take for
Noel to gain any latitude...the official forecast stays close to
the model consensus...which is along the same path but just a
little slower than the previous advisory.  From 48 hours on...the
new track is essentially unchanged in taking Noel quickly
northeastward while undergoing extratropical transition.

Little change in strength appears likely until the system emerges
back over water north of Cuba.  After that...the official intensity
forecast closely follows the SHIPS guidance through 48 hours in
calling for gradual strengthening while Noel is expected to remain
a tropical cyclone.  Extratropical transition is expected by 72
hours...followed by continued strengthening as suggested by the
global models.  Some of the models predict that Noel itself will
not last beyond about 3 days...and instead call for Noel to be
absorbed within the frontal zone of an extratropical cyclone
farther north.  For now...the official forecast will assume that
Noel will remain intact and provide the focus for the extratropical
cyclone.
 
The strong gusty winds currently affecting portions of Florida are
associated with a strong high pressure system to the north and are
not directly related to the circulation of Noel. See statements
from NWS local forecast offices.
 
Forecast positions and Max winds
 
initial      30/2100z 21.0n  78.0w    35 kt...inland over Cuba
 12hr VT     31/0600z 21.6n  78.8w    35 kt...near S coast of Cuba
 24hr VT     31/1800z 22.6n  79.2w    35 kt...near N coast of Cuba
 36hr VT     01/0600z 24.1n  78.8w    40 kt...over water
 48hr VT     01/1800z 26.8n  77.2w    45 kt
 72hr VT     02/1800z 34.0n  70.0w    50 kt...extratropical
 96hr VT     03/1800z 41.0n  63.0w    60 kt...extratropical
120hr VT     04/1800z 48.5n  56.5w    60 kt...extratropical
 
$$
forecaster Knabb/Landsea

138 posted on 10/30/2007 2:47:21 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: steveegg

It has been SO windy here all day, I feel like I’m in West Texas without the dust!
susie


139 posted on 10/30/2007 3:01:36 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

Hopefully it was with some rain.


140 posted on 10/30/2007 3:05:39 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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