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Dump the Huck: He’s not VPOTUS material.
NationalReviewOnline ^ | 10/26/07 | Pat Toomey

Posted on 10/26/2007 8:37:20 AM PDT by pookie18

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To: Soul Seeker

Good analysis. I think you’re exactly right.


81 posted on 10/26/2007 2:31:53 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Soul Seeker

*Crickets*


82 posted on 10/26/2007 4:56:39 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Delacon; EternalVigilance
“Someone tell me how Toomey is any less sold out than Mike Huckabee.” How so? Toomey is president of Club for Growth who are for low taxes, limited government and fiscal responsibility. I like the Club. For that matter, who has Huckabee sold out to? You may not like either with valid reasons but its bad enough that we cons attack each other during the primaries. We should keep it honest.

Dittos on that comment. Neither Toomey nor Huckabee are 'sold out', but Toomey and the CfG are true fiscal conservatives while Huckabee's record is one of someone who clearly is not.

We cannot have another tax-and-spender at the top of the ticket.

83 posted on 10/27/2007 7:01:55 AM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: Delacon

How so? Go back to the original context of my post. His factually-challenged lip service to Giuliani and Romney destroys his credibility.


84 posted on 10/27/2007 7:07:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Selling out refers to the compromising of one’s integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money, ‘success’ or other personal gain. How, in you opinion, did Toomey do this?


85 posted on 10/27/2007 7:25:11 AM PDT by Delacon (“The attempt to make heaven on earth invariably produces hell” Karl Popper)
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To: Delacon

Perhaps you’re right. I retract the “sell-out” label.

Paying lip service to Giuliani and Romney as somehow being paragons of virtue when it comes to economic conservatism isn’t direct evidence of a sell-out. It’s just stupid and ignorant and galling, especially coming from someone with as much power as Pat Toomey has available at his service.


86 posted on 10/27/2007 7:32:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Paying lip service to Giuliani and Romney as somehow being paragons of virtue when it comes to economic conservatism isn’t direct evidence of a sell-out. It’s just stupid and ignorant and galling, especially coming from someone with as much power as Pat Toomey has available at his service.”

I don’t know if you can realisticly accuse Toomey of portraying Rudy and Mitt as “paragons” but both governors left their respective states better off fiscally than when they entered office. Both governors got spending under control. I agree with Toomey that if republicans are going to reclaim the public’s confidence, its going to have to be in the area of fiscal responsibility. Toomey believes we can do that with either Thompson, Giuliani or Romney(in that order). I agree. Huckabee and McCain get CforG’s worst marks btw.


87 posted on 10/27/2007 9:16:07 AM PDT by Delacon (“The attempt to make heaven on earth invariably produces hell” Karl Popper)
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To: Delacon

A) Giuliani was never a Governor.

B) You’re just plain wrong. Any indication of fiscal conservatism from any of these liberals is nothing more than a product of their campaign’s myth-making abilities.


88 posted on 10/27/2007 10:20:24 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Any indication of fiscal conservatism from any of these liberals is nothing more than a product of their campaign’s myth-making abilities.”

Well I wouldn’t accuse Club for Growth for falling for any supposed “campaign myth making abilities”. These guys focus on the candidates records and arrive at solid opinions and advice. This is the Club for Growth, not the New York Times.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/09/fred_thompsons_record_on_econo.php
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/05/rudy_giulianis_economic_record.php
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/08/mitt_romneys_record_on_economi.php
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/03/arizona_senator_john_mccains_t.php
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php


89 posted on 10/27/2007 7:41:12 PM PDT by Delacon (“The attempt to make heaven on earth invariably produces hell” Karl Popper)
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To: Delacon

I don’t form my opinions of any candidate based on the opinions of the Club or anyone else.

I’ve seen the CfG come down on the right side many times, for which I’m always grateful, and I’ve seen them blow it.

But, again, I’ll say it: Anyone who thinks Giuliani or Romney are any sort of conservative, fiscal or otherwise, is either very naive, or blowing smoke themselves.


90 posted on 10/27/2007 7:52:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Spiff

He’s down below his pre-announcement highs already, having lost his entire announcement bounce and back down to where he was before he even started campaigning, participating in debates, and running ads, etc.”

Sadly, the more voters see of Fred, the less they like him. Not exactly the sign of a winning campaign.


91 posted on 12/03/2007 4:55:28 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: WOSG

Romney is still leading Iowa”

Today, Romney has finally dipped below Huck in Iowa.


92 posted on 12/03/2007 4:57:46 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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