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My Night At The Orlando Fox News Presidential Debate
Myself | 10-22-2007 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: CharlesWayneCT

well stated.


301 posted on 10/22/2007 1:14:16 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

How many?


302 posted on 10/22/2007 1:17:28 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: sam_paine

I agree. I love el rushbo, but I think about Santorum every time he says that.

However, I note that Rush doesn’t call people like Rudy or people who support Rudy “babykillers” and “aboritionists” and I am completely convinced that Rush will come out swinging & support whoever the nominee is. He realizes what is at stake. Some people could learn from him.


303 posted on 10/22/2007 1:28:10 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: jonathanmo
Here ya go, you count them.
304 posted on 10/22/2007 1:31:31 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: Spiff
“As for guns, Romney is a 2nd Amendment supporter.” “So, he doesn’t want your guns or anyone else’s.”

As long as you don’t think the second amendment includes “assault weapons” you are correct, Mitt is a second amendment supporter. What, I wonder, does he think an Assault Weapon is? He’s pretty clear in his statements that they don’t belong in the population- I feel he’d act on his feelings as president.

Romney, like Hillary and Bill Clinton, Sarah Brady, John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy have always stated that they support the Second Amendment. You won’t find a statement from Mitt to the contrary or from Hill, Bill, Sarah, or Schumer.

He has stated, though, that he is opposed to citizens owning “assault weapons” and supported the federal ban, and supported and signed a permanent Massachusetts ban on “assault weapons” and “big magazines”. He reaffirmed his opposition to citizens owning deadly things like “assault weapons” on Steffi’s show in February while affirming his support for the Second Amendment.

He also supported the Brady Act waiting period and background check.

So his support of the Second Amendment includes banning undefined broad classes of firearms, waiting periods, and Federal background checks.

Add to that his statements that he owns guns, and is a lifelong hunter (without owning guns or being a hunter) and I get a pretty clear picture of Governor Mitt Romney’s stance on RKBA.

Feb 18 transcript in which Romney supports banning certain classes of firearms:

Stephanopoulos: Let’s talk about guns. You were supportive of the Brady bill, the handgun waiting period, in the past. You signed an assault weapon ban into law and you said, in the past, “I don’t line up with the NRA.”

Now, you…

Mitt Romney: Well, on that issue.

Stephanopoulos: Now you’re a member of the NRA.

Mitt Romney: Yes, and I know the NRA does not support an assault weapon ban. So I don’t line up on that particular issue with the NRA, either does President Bush. He likewise says he supported an assault weapon ban.

Today we don’t have the Brady bill because we have instantaneous background checks. That’s no longer a operative or needed measure. [So I should be immune to criticism that I once supported it].

But I’m a strong proponent of Second Amendment rights. I believe people, under our Constitution, have the right to bear arms. [Just not “assault weapons”]

We have a gun in one of our homes. It’s not owned by me, it’s owned by my son, but I’ve always considered it sort of mine. [I didn’t really lie when I said I owned a gun but didn’t]

Stephanopoulos: When did you join the NRA?

Mitt Romney: Within the last year and I signed up for a lifelong membership. I think they’re doing good things and I believe in supporting the right to bear arms.

I’ve been a hunter all my life, not frequently, but as a boy, when I worked on a ranch in Idaho, we used to go out shooting rabbits, because they were eating all the barley, and I got pretty good with a single shot .22 rifle, and been quail hunting more recently.

So I’m a hunter and believe in Second Amendment rights, but I also believe that assault weapons are not needed in the public population.
[end transcript]

So, Spiff, any thoughts on what Mitt thinks an assault weapon is?

305 posted on 10/22/2007 1:40:39 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I’ll read through them, but for chrissake, this is from Steve Gillard’s blog...he was a huge lefty blogger that was one of the originators of the Daily Kos and an affirmed Republican hater...


306 posted on 10/22/2007 1:46:07 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: I_like_good_things_too
I am completely convinced that Rush will come out swinging & support whoever the nominee is. He realizes what is at stake.

Ditto! I will too.

I hope in the end there will be few "broken glass inactivists." ---the "true conservatives" who intend to sit at home and pop a cork to Hillary's inauguration because it gives them perverse revenge on the party.

I think there's more of those people on FR per-capita than in the real world, I hope.

307 posted on 10/22/2007 1:46:30 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: jonathanmo; Liz
Someone here had a long list with notations for articles - sorry I'm thinking it might have been Liz and I looked but didn't find a link.

But even a lefty blog couldn't make up indictments that are public record.

308 posted on 10/22/2007 2:00:12 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Godspeed


309 posted on 10/22/2007 2:04:34 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: Man50D

When you settle for the lesser of two evils you will still end up with evil. Settling for some socialism will only beget more socialism. Your strategy prevents the line from being drawn for too much socialism. That rationalization will also lower the bar by tolerating candidates who are a little more socialistic then those in the previous election. Eventually the country will have been completely converted to socialism. It’s the frog in the pot routine who doesn’t realized the heat is being gradually turned up. Eventually it is cooked without ever knowing. It is this type of slippery slope thinking that caused the GOP to lose control of Congress in 2006 and has put itself in the current predicament of a split in the party. The irony is the GOP never expects the socialist Democrats to sacrifice their principles. I suggest you read post #33 for an enlightening perspective.

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Well responded and I do hear you. This is by far a no win situation. So what does one do? I truly do not want another Clinton Presidency. You bet I’ll vote for Fred Thompson in the primary but when it comes to the general, its like the graveyard chills running up and down my spine. What will you do?


310 posted on 10/22/2007 2:08:13 PM PDT by navymom1 (Freedom is Talk Radio. Fight to Preserve It.)
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To: lmc12

I am praying that Ron Paul is not going to be the Ross Perot of the 2008 election.


311 posted on 10/22/2007 2:10:40 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I enjoyed the focus group and you so much that I backed it up and recorded it.


312 posted on 10/22/2007 2:13:13 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: txflake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdVREcuNRqA


313 posted on 10/22/2007 2:56:47 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: Tears of a Clown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdVREcuNRqA


314 posted on 10/22/2007 2:57:10 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Maybe they’ve run out of doobie, and that’s making them all irritable.

Perhaps we can send them some weed and the Paulistinians will mellow out?


315 posted on 10/22/2007 3:04:50 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. -- Sherman)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Missed the debate last night and your appearance in the focus group. It sounds great. Applause, applause, applause. Any links to catch this on video?


316 posted on 10/22/2007 3:05:24 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Choose Ye This Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjjDtOzaXdw


317 posted on 10/22/2007 3:18:04 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: Rick_Michael

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjjDtOzaXdw


318 posted on 10/22/2007 3:18:40 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: don-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjjDtOzaXdw


319 posted on 10/22/2007 3:19:56 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; Admin Moderator

Videos are listed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxT8wWxPRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjjDtOzaXdw

According to the YouTubers we were all scripted hacks for Fox News. Nothing could be further from the truth.


320 posted on 10/22/2007 3:24:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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