Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Where is that? Magic IC????
How’d Hacksaw get burned? Trying to save house or trying to get out or what?
This fire on KCAL is to the west of Stevensons Ranch.....well away from houses
Is Magic Mountain on fire?
More than 600 SoCal homes lost to unchecked wildfires
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/265819.html
ALLISON HOFFMAN and GILLIAN FLACCUS - ap
Monday, Oct 22 2007 8:33 PM
Hundreds of homes were reduced to ashes Monday as wildfires blown by fierce desert winds raced across a huge swath of Southern California extending from Malibu to the Mexican border, forcing a quarter of a million people to flee.
At least one person was killed and dozens injured by more than a dozen blazes that formed a hellish, spidery pattern of luminous orange covering at least 521 square miles of the drought-stricken region.
The news got worse as the day wore on: Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100 commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern San Diego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fire injured eight people, including seven firefighters, and was spreading unchecked.
Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade some stubborn homeowners to leave - were almost completely overwhelmed as gale-force winds gusting to 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning multiple fires in the same area. California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in other states.
“It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the end of the world,” Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he and his crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill their water truck from a hydrant near a restaurant.
At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said Patti Roberts, spokeswoman for the Gov.’s Office of Emergency Services. “We have literally the perfect firestorm going on,” Roberts said. “We’re a long ways from containment if there is such a thing given these winds.”
From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the Pacific coast, at least 655 homes and 168 businesses or other structures were destroyed. More than 265,000 people in numerous communities were warned to leave their homes.
At least 250,000 residents were told to flee in San Diego County alone. “It’s probably closer to 300,000,” said County Supervisor Ron Roberts. More 200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents - were made, alerting people to evacuations, he said.
Among them were hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from a hospital and nursing homes, many still in their hospital gowns and wheelchairs. Some carried their medical records in large zip-lock plastic bags.
About 80 miles northeast, in the mountainous Lake Arrowhead area, a two-front fire destroyed 133 homes in the same mountain resort community where hundreds were lost four years earlier. Air tankers that had been grounded because of high winds were back in the air fighting those fires by early evening.
One of the planes was a converted DC-10 airliner, the largest air tanker in existence. It quickly went to work laying down a huge curtain of flame retardant.
Meanwhile, in Orange County, a 1,049-inmate jail was evacuated because of heavy smoke. The prisoners were taken by bus to other lockups.
In San Diego, about 10,000 evacuees ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL’s Chargers. There they huddled in eerie silence on the bleachers, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. A lone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Others gathered in the parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium.
The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was also turned into an evacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers.
At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have been the work of an arsonist. A blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous in Malibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said.
The Malibu residents forced to evacuate included Mel Gibson, Victoria Principal and Kelsey Grammer, none of whom lost homes, according to their publicists.
By nightfall, burning embers ignited spot fires in the neighboring ultrawealthy suburb of Rancho Santa Fe, north of San Diego. The embers started fires in lemon orchards and smoke choked the air around gated mansions. South of the city, in Chula Vista, authorities issued yet more orders to leave.
The blazes in San Diego County and elsewhere erupted one after another over the weekend. Several new fires erupted Monday, while others merged. Parts of seven Southern California counties were ablaze.
All San Diego police officers and detectives were ordered to return to work to help move people to safety and handle other fire-related emergencies.
Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames were delayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave their homes.
“They didn’t evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late,” said Bill Metcalf, a fire boss.
Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in the city’s Rancho Bernardo area to help his neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home was untouched, but he watched a neighbor’s house reduced to nothing but the remnants of a brick chimney. “The house went up like a Roman candle,” Sollie said.
He added: “If we weren’t here, the whole neighborhood would go up. There just aren’t enough fire trucks around.”
As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around northern San Diego County’s Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to leave, staying behind to help rescue his neighbor Ken Morris’ horses.
“It’s hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the bad thing is you can’t get back in once you leave,” Smith said.
Besides, said Smith, “Lots of time the fire doesn’t ever come. It’s come really close before. I’ve seen it so bad you couldn’t even hear yourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere.”
Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs as flames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community with a large number of elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busy street.
Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. But the towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time.
Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diego to watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozen homes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west over the 10-lane freeway.
“The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill in seconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it was at the top,” said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend evacuate his home in nearby Escondido.
Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to move condors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistant veterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals, such as elephants, rhinos and antelope, were left in irrigated enclosures.
The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affected counties, opening the way for government aid. He also directed the California National Guard to make 1,500 guardsmen, including 200 troops patrolling the border, available to support firefighting efforts. San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said the troops main focus will be to prevent looting and allow “orderly evacuations.”
“Its a tragic time for California,” Schwarzenegger said in Malibu, where a church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle were destroyed over the weekend.
In Fallbrook, northeast of San Diego, a quick-moving fire that began Monday forced thousands to flee. Marine officials at neighboring Camp Pendleton opened the base to residents fleeing the flames.
The San Diego fire closest to the Mexican border was responsible for one death. More than a dozen people were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, including four firefighters, three of whom were listed in critical condition, officials said.
Some of the injured were hikers, while others may be illegal immigrants. Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had to flee its barracks.
San Diego County spokeswoman Lesley Kirk said fire crews were stretched thin and were anxiously awaiting reinforcements from other parts of the state.
“The winds are up, it’s very, very dangerous conditions,” Kirk said. “Fires are popping up all over the place.”
In late October and early November of 2003, 15 fires in many of the same areas killed 22 people and destroyed 3,640 homes. Ten years earlier, in October and November of 1993, 26 fires in those areas killed four people and damaged or destroyed 1,200 structures.
Magic Mountain area....what is on KCAL right now....they are shwoing a controlled burn right now....they are firing areas that would never be allowed in normal times...they did the same thing last time they had a fire threaten Stephensons Ranch....
Scanner: Power just went down to Running Springs
It means there isn't any space between them any more.
No.. really.. that's pretty much it.
Please pray for our kids they are being evacuated near Mira Mesa. This is such a horror my wife is in tears and there is nothing we can do here for them. This is so unbelievable, they worked so hard on their house it makes you cry. Please pray freepers!
KFMB Channel 8 reporter at Qualcomm stating San Diego City Schools are asking their teachers to go to Qualcomm tomorrow if they are out of fire danger, to help with the kids that are at the Q.
This struck me as odd. can’t the parents take care of their children?
That is a bit comforting. I thought there might be more of a firestorm just because of the size of 3 fires coming together. Dresden, Germany comes to mind.
who is this lady babbling on KCAL? good grief lady, get a grip!
Prayers up for your kids. Tell your wife not to worry too much...San Diego folks are taking care of each other.
Praying for their safe evacuation. The house while important can be replaced if needed. I do understand the hard work on a house though.
Where near Mira Mesa are they being evacuated?
I live in Rancho Pnasquitos and I am still in my home. THe fire would have to get to MANY homes before it gets to Mira Mesa.
But some folks on another thread thought it would be good to have a thread for each of the major areas...so I think that is what we seem to have....but I have been gone for several hours....we may have a dozen threads by now....
Will do. I pray for their safety.
Oh geeezzzz...
well, today there was a huge argument about shelter the kids in place in the schools in SD, when the teachers couldnt make it in....
All I know is that there will be 100,000 people at Qualcomm and no looting or firing on helicopters.
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