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(Adulterer, flip-flopper) Giuliani asks Values Voters to trust him
The Politico ^ | 10/20/-2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 10/20/2007 10:21:39 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky

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To: Ol' Sparky
What info do you have that says that Fred, or any of the other candidates for that matter does any better in the general election than Rudy does?

I see this claim over and over again, yet at least the Rudy camp has numbers (via polls) to back up their claims that they will do better against Hillary than any of the other candidates.

181 posted on 10/20/2007 1:39:26 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: indylindy
I will not be motivated to vote for any liberal on election day.

So you sit out the election. Ok. All of us knew there would be stubborn holdouts that will "stand on their principles" even to the extent to help Hillary.

So the question is whether Rudy can draw enough centrists and Democrats to vote for him. I think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll draw more than other Republicans. How much support he loses from the right will determine if Hillary wins.

182 posted on 10/20/2007 1:40:54 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

You think what you like. I am an American, I will fight for US citizens. We fought against this kind of oppression many years ago, and we can fight it now.

Give up, go ahead. Hand your kids down a shameful legacy because you are submissive and weak.

What will they have left to be proud of. Losers.


183 posted on 10/20/2007 1:41:17 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Man50D
you will be urging people to support one socialist against another. The end result will be more socialism in the White House

Neither are socialists, but Hillary is a communist (and hides it well).

184 posted on 10/20/2007 1:42:52 PM PDT by narby
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To: Ol' Sparky

You people amaze me.
You will gladly cut off your nose to spite your face.
Rudy has his faults but I will gladly take him over Hillary Clinton.


185 posted on 10/20/2007 1:44:57 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: narby

Yeah, why the hell don’t you waste your time on “centrist sites”.I believe that would make more sense.

Centrists are like whores they hate getting screwed but they need the money.


186 posted on 10/20/2007 1:45:37 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy
I hate losing. That is why I do not support Rudy in any way.

Nonsense. So what is it you're getting from the Hillary! campaign?

187 posted on 10/20/2007 1:46:15 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

You are 100% correct.


188 posted on 10/20/2007 1:46:28 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: codercpc; Ol' Sparky; narby; sofaman

What info do you have that says that Fred, or any of the other candidates for that matter does any better in the general election than Rudy does?
I see this claim over and over again, yet at least the Rudy camp has numbers (via polls) to back up their claims that they will do better against Hillary than any of the other candidates.


So you will cash in whatever conservative principles, ethics, morals and beliefs to support the liberal that can “win.” What happens to you when he loses to Hellary? You all who traded your principles, ethics, morals and beliefs will have NOTHING.

Now if Thompson (who I’d vote for) were nominated and also loses, I will have lost along with him just as you would have lost along with Trudy. But I didn’t have to trade my principles, my ethics, my morals or my beliefs.

I’d still have them. What the heck would you have? Who would YOU be? Do you even think of that? Or is the problem that you don’t have the principles, ethics, moral or beliefs other than “winning” to begin with?


189 posted on 10/20/2007 1:47:25 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)
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To: LowOiL
Stupid high horse? temper, temper...

No such thing as a Christian Jew, I hate to point out. You may want to redefine Judaism, but that doesn't qualify as fact.

Besides I fail to see how your comments that clearly indicate that Christianity is not inclusive of, amongst others, Jews shouldn't offend me. That qualifies as a high horse? You really need to calm down.

Besides, the last thing I need from the likes of you, is a diatribe on why Christians are not required to be inclusive, which not such a far cry from intolerance.

As for lecturing you, hardly. Read your comments...who's the lecturer, Mr. Pontication?

You should chill, Sparky.

190 posted on 10/20/2007 1:47:40 PM PDT by sofaman (Ahmadinejad: Those who attempt to rewrite history are probably planning to repeat it.)
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To: Grunthor
[“So you’re a Hillary supporter. Ok.”] So you’re a baby raping drug addict. Ok.

Spreading division in the Republican party helps Hillary.

And you think I'm a baby raping drug addict why, exactly?

191 posted on 10/20/2007 1:48:38 PM PDT by narby
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To: Califreak

That “thing” is an abomination! LOL!


192 posted on 10/20/2007 1:49:17 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy
Give up, go ahead.

I'm not the one advocating the division of the Republican party because I don't get my way. Those who do are the one's who are giving up. I will support my party next november no matter who the nominee is.

193 posted on 10/20/2007 1:50:46 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby
Neither are socialists, but Hillary is a communist (and hides it well).

Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."

194 posted on 10/20/2007 1:51:34 PM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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To: LowOiL
"Rudy voted for 44 out of 46 liberal judges while mayor."

You might want to check into how judges are nominated in NYC.

But apparently, Rudy is evil. We're evil...only you are good. I'm on a high horse. You're right. Case closed.

Goodnight Gracie...way to have a discussion.

Welcome President Hillary... blame those who voted for Rudy, not those who voted on "principle".

195 posted on 10/20/2007 1:52:11 PM PDT by sofaman (Ahmadinejad: Those who attempt to rewrite history are probably planning to repeat it.)
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To: Galactica

I will not vote for Rudy. No way, no how.


196 posted on 10/20/2007 1:52:50 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Grunthor
"If he does, it will be the fisrt time he’s ever disappointed me."

He already has said that he will. Prepare to be disappointed.

197 posted on 10/20/2007 1:53:18 PM PDT by sofaman (Ahmadinejad: Those who attempt to rewrite history are probably planning to repeat it.)
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To: narby
I will support my party next november no matter who the nominee is.

As I will mine, just mine will not include a vote for a liberal. I may have to write mine in, but that is easy enough.

198 posted on 10/20/2007 1:53:27 PM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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To: indylindy
Yeah, why the hell don’t you waste your time on “centrist sites”.I believe that would make more sense. Centrists are like whores they hate getting screwed but they need the money.

There are no centrist sites. By definition, they don't make up their minds until the last minute, which is why they hold the key to the election.

If Hillary captures it, she wins. If our nominee catches it, he wins.

That is unless those preaching hatred against Rudy manage to split the party to an extent that the centrists don't make up.

199 posted on 10/20/2007 1:53:42 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

How noble and totally unprincipaled. Also a losing mantra.

Hey, have you been to those “centrist” sites yet?

They are waiting for Rooty Rooters to win them over.

Instead of expecting conservatives to vote for a liberal, all those “centrists” are waiting to be courted.

Go for it.


200 posted on 10/20/2007 1:54:40 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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