Posted on 10/18/2007 8:37:41 AM PDT by DeweyCA
Seems like you were too busy to see the good looking broads waiting on the CEO and directors, or to note their fine taste in furnishings and clothing, or see them off in their corporate jets (as you stand in line getting groped by a Muslim and sitting nest to a TB ridden alien), or to actually think about how their incomes are fixed, or to ever catch them giving kickbacks to government hacks. You sound a lot like Uncle Tom.
You need to read up a bit more on economics. Perhaps a little Walter Williams when he's not subbing for Rush. Outsourcing helps third world countries grow into places that can afford to buy our stuff. And at the same time makes stuff we buy cheaper.
Our current unemployment rate is at a record low. What's your complaint?
The argument against "outsourcing" is an emotional ploy used by politicians and unions in order to pursuade the rest of us to give them more power over the corporations Medved is talking about. I'm not buying it.
That’s one of the most foolish statements I’ve heard in here. Do you, for one minute, think that hard working Americans don’t see what is going on around them? Do you believe that working America doesn’t care about those things? You don’t stop what you don’t like by sticking your head in the sand. You do, however, go to work for companies that fit your moral values. If you don’t, then your values are aren’t any better than theirs. I’ve ridden in the corporate jets, attended the fancy conventions, purchased the nice cars and homes but never gave up my values and always tried to instill good working values in my employees and treated them very well. It all boils down to what you want out of life. It can’t all be place on the backs of the corporations. If you work for a large corporation, you ARE that corporation. Sure the presidents and CEO’s get large salaries but who gives them the sarlaries? The stock holders........that’s most likely people just like you and me.
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Really? Talk about foolish. So Morgan Stanley is just like you and me. Wow. Yesterday, they threw in the towel at the NYT because for years the CEO, Pinchy, wouldn't listen to them.
Another thing that has irked me is the recent passage in the senate to overhaul patent rights. It favors international corporations at the expense of the little guy in a garage. Now any well funded corporation, and the Chinese and Indians, can see an inventor's secrets and beat him in the filing process. When I read you the riot act, I was listing the corrupt faults of corporations. Corrupt capitalism is a throwback to the beginnings of the industrial revolution. Is that your idea of the common good? I don't know about you, but I would much rather live in a free market free of corrupt corporations.
If unemployment is sooo low, why did the GOP lose 2006 and why is GWB’s poll numbers below 40 percent, and why is over 60 percent of Americans feel the US is heading in the wrong direction??? Reality does not fit your assertions that outsourcing and free trade is great. In the old days, rising tides raised all boats, but under free trade and globalism rising tides raise some boats and sink others. Don’t believe me, look at New York state. New York City is booming because they make money no matter if the factory moves overseas or comes to the US. Someone has to set up the finances, review the contracts, and the ones familiar with the impending deals make the stock purchases/sales, and these are the people who make money in the global economy. Everyone else will have to look over their shoulders because they can be replaced by a worker overseas, an illegal immigrant or a H-1B lower cost worker. Even workers in state of the art technology knows that once the product hits the shelf and makes a ton of money, within 18 months many of the inventors, techies and etc will be replaced by hi tech manufacturers overseas, and these workers will begin the whole cycle of employment, laid off, look for new job, get new job but with a slightly lower salary and work their way back up again, and begin the cycle all over within 2-3 years. Then it becomes tougher as the worker hits his late 40’s or early 50’s. The financiers of globalism have their salaries on average double in the last 8 years, while the workers barely kept up with inflation and must change jobs every 3 years. The other problem with the new free trade and global economy is we made no allowances for people who do not go to college. Illegal immigrants and selling off our manufacturing base destroyed those opportunities and salaries. Good paying jobs for high school grads were a good social safety valve. A famous politician once quoted that the purpose of the middle class is to keep the poor from poor from getting their hands around the throats of the rich. Destroy this class with open borders, selling off manufacturing base, etc, etc, the well to do may wake up with the poor at their throats.
“Let me explain to you how this works. You see, the corporations finance Team America. And then Team America goes out and the corporations sit there in their, in in their corporation buildings and, and and see that’s, they’re all corporationy, and they make money. Mhm.” - Tim Robbins F.A.G.
Phoenix just hit the lowest unemployment rate in 40 years. Nationwide, unemployment has been very low for many years compared to historical averages.
why did the GOP lose 2006
The media claims it was Iraq. I think anger because of earmarks did it. Trade issues weren't on the map except in a few locations where the unions preach against them like a fire and brimstone preacher.
why is over 60 percent of Americans feel the US is heading in the wrong direction???
The left is mad because we're in Iraq. The right is mad because the feds won't fix immigration. Trade is not on the map.
Reality does not fit your assertions that outsourcing and free trade is great.
Your previous sentences did not counter my arguments that outsourcing is a small political issue.
In the old days, rising tides raised all boats, but under free trade and globalism rising tides raise some boats and sink others.
Free trade was established under Reagan, that combined with supply side taxation proved that the tide raising did in fact occur.
You said a lot more BS that belongs in a Ross Perot stump speech. Perot was an idiot when he said that stuff in '92, and the 15 years since has demonstrated that free markets work fine.
The only thing that does not work is the education system that has demonstrated that it cannot replace illogical and emotional arguments like yours with the facts on the ground.
You pretty much nailed it in post twenty seven.
Free trade did not lift all boats. Ask a steel worker, ask a machinist and down the road ask the American truck driver (when Mexican truck drivers show up on the roads). Recently Greenspan admits that globalism and free trade creates turbulence in society. People are employed but their jobs are not secure even when the company is making record profits. Good book to read is call “Future Shock”, there is a whole chapter covering rapid change caused by technology and how it creates socially instability and the consequences politically. Free trade is causing social tubulence. Don’t believe me, go to up state NY, western PA, industrial midwest, eastern KY, textile districts of the south, ete, etc, etc. Until the GOP understands this social political dynamic they will continue to lose elections to the Dems. GOP blind faith to free trade is no different from the Dems blind faith to welfare and affirmative action. Just a quick note - most free traders and globalists believe in amnesty for illegal immigrants and the end to borders. After all if materials, services and products can flow freely thru borders, why not labor???? Of course these same people who will make it illegal for US citizens to shop for US perscription drugs sold at cheaper prices overseas. Only corporations have that privalege to shop globally for the lowest cost, but the American (a term that will be made obsolete by corporate America because we will become North American Unionist - habla espanol senior???) consumers cannot.
Yeah. The overpaid union workers cut their own throats. I have no sympathy. The fact is that the overall American economy is doing very well, now that we've shed a few workers that got rich by extorting their own company. If only we could lose the unionized government workers now.
As for truck drivers, I'm only amazed that such an inefficient business model as over-the-road trucking exists. The Railroads must be awfully inefficient, and/or milking massive profits for them not to have squashed trucking by now with rail's inherently superior transportation network.
Your post is generally unreadable. That first sentence is as far as I got.
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